a4poster Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Hi, can anyone give me a rough idea how much a riders fuel cost per meeting? Enquiring with a view of possible sponsorship. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 £5 roughly depending on number of races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) Is that with additives or without?! Or does it depend on the size of the tank? Edited October 14, 2017 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 This could soon become quite an explosive topic. Is that with additives or without?! Or does it depend on the size of the tank? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Is that with additives or without?! Or does it depend on the size of the tank? Nowt like 'DRY ICE', no additives needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Depends on weather you use Regular or Performance +, the later is far better if you want to cheat the opposition out of points money, but you will come back down to earth in the FIM meetings, but there are ways round this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a4poster Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Thanks for the replies, even the tongue in cheek ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 normal sponsor deals they buy the rider 5 litres per meeting . Bought from spares van £7-8 . bought from builders merchants or chemical suppliers in 25 litre drums £25 That shocked me - the Fuel is a lot cheaper than I thought it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 That shocked me - the Fuel is a lot cheaper than I thought it was. I don't think there is the usual taxes that apply to petrol TWK. Probably just VAT. I think methanol is wood alcohol, but I wouldn't recommend you start drinking it TWK! Stick to your whisky and soda! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 I don't think there is the usual taxes that apply to petrol TWK. Probably just VAT. I think methanol is wood alcohol, but I wouldn't recommend you start drinking it TWK! Stick to your whisky and soda! Whisky and SODA!!! Good God man have you no taste? I wouldn't ruin a good Single Malt with SODA WATER. Bloody hell - there are limits you know Ray. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Judging by how much riders are now said to be paid, I should think that the fuel cost is insignificant and probably no rider is urgently seeking such minimal sponsorship. I was under the impression that it was supplied centrally in the pits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Well, if anyone wants to sponsor fuel (or oil, which is expensive) there are any number of Development League riders out there who would be grateful! As they don't get paid at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KN1 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Any kind of sponsorship is appreciated by the majority of riders. How much do you think they get paid? No it is not freely distributed in the UK as it is in Poland. Edited October 18, 2017 by KN1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Any kind of sponsorship is appreciated by the majority of riders. How much do you think they get paid? No it is not freely distributed in the UK as it is in Poland. Yeah, but they make Vodka with whats left over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Any kind of sponsorship is appreciated by the majority of riders. How much do you think they get paid? No it is not freely distributed in the UK as it is in Poland. If only we knew? No-one is prepared to break the Code of Silence over even basic pay rates are they? So they can't be too bad can they and doubling up riders must be well off. With what I have heard as £100 a point ( no idea if start money is now paid ) at Championship level and £200 per point ( minimum ) at Premier league level.. It looks as if no doubling up rider is earning less than £250,000 gross income from riding speedway - plus whatever income he can glean from sponsors ( which in some cases can be very considerable ). Yes, of course Development League riders who do not get paid could do with anything in the way of sponsorship. Let's hear about pay rates from someone in the know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Of course the rates for those who "make it" are considerable and some earn a very nice living out of the sport but the cost to get there are astronomical. As stated already development league riders are not paid anything which really begs the question why anyone would to take up the sport? The general consensus from riders is that they are largely treated like second class citizens by some people at most tracks they visit, the number of tracks willing to offer a venue to use is pathetically low, even if a fixture has been arranged there is no guarantee of it going ahead due to curfew (and lack of urgency by the host clubs) without the considerable costs involved with tracking a league standard machine, travel, time off work etc and thats ignoring all the additional costs loaded against individuals who even attempt to run development league sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Of course the rates for those who "make it" are considerable and some earn a very nice living out of the sport but the cost to get there are astronomical. As stated already development league riders are not paid anything which really begs the question why anyone would to take up the sport? The general consensus from riders is that they are largely treated like second class citizens by some people at most tracks they visit, the number of tracks willing to offer a venue to use is pathetically low, even if a fixture has been arranged there is no guarantee of it going ahead due to curfew (and lack of urgency by the host clubs) without the considerable costs involved with tracking a league standard machine, travel, time off work etc and thats ignoring all the additional costs loaded against individuals who even attempt to run development league sides Well said, Sings; I can confirm that all of this is only too true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Well said, Sings; I can confirm that all of this is only too true! My son rode Motor Cross for several years, his bike cost £4,000 it was not new, it cost him £35 to enter a meeting, plus fuel to and from a meeting, if he wins a race (Which is very rare) he gets a cup worth £5 He couldn’t believe it when he was speaking to Speedway rider in the NL and not a very good one,who told him when he rides he gets traveling allowance, his racing insurance pay for, then if he wins a race he gets £45, and he has 4 races, can I suggest Speedway riders try Motor Cross then they will realise how lucky they are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 My son rode Motor Cross for several years, his bike cost £4,000 it was not new, it cost him £35 to enter a meeting, plus fuel to and from a meeting, if he wins a race (Which is very rare) he gets a cup worth £5 He couldn’t believe it when he was speaking to Speedway rider in the NL and not a very good one,who told him when he rides he gets traveling allowance, his racing insurance pay for, then if he wins a race he gets £45, and he has 4 races, can I suggest Speedway riders try Motor Cross then they will realise how lucky they are That is NL. For the DL, there is no travelling allowance, no fuel, no oil, no tyres, no prize money, no nothing. And quite often no racing if the main match drags on too long, or if the promoter can't be bothered. Although actually, you occaisionally get something; at Somerset this year, we got a can of methanol. And a couple of years ago, the rider got £20 expenses, which I confiscated, as it cost me £40 or thereabouts in diesel to get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 That is NL. For the DL, there is no travelling allowance, no fuel, no oil, no tyres, no prize money, no nothing. And quite often no racing if the main match drags on too long, or if the promoter can't be bothered. Although actually, you occaisionally get something; at Somerset this year, we got a can of methanol. And a couple of years ago, the rider got £20 expenses, which I confiscated, as it cost me £40 or thereabouts in diesel to get there. Tight Git!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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