waiheke1 Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Funny, isn't it, how Poole and Somerset decided not to use Ellis and Wilson-Dean so they could get a 'proper' average. So Swindon signed them both, plus Doyle on 13, and won the league title. No disputing who got the team building right this year. They all got a 'proper' average during the season, enabling Swindon to strengthen up and cream everyone. Tbf the rules which allowed Swindon to strengthen up were ridiculous.Don't understand the logic of sides letting them out to get "real averages." Ellis averaged a bit less than I though he would but came good when it counted. BWD surpassed my expectations, which as a kiwi I was happy about. Bellego was the big surprise, averaging a couple more than most though he would. Like wolves, Swindon made good changes at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15590323._Title_winning_Robins_may_have_to_split_up___says_Rossiter/ Claims Ellis wants to stay. Would happily keep him. I guess that will be down to what Lakeskde do. Im sure lakeside will want both Ellis & Zach if they come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted October 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Kyle Newman would be a good signing & after riding in the play off semi he would be a popular choice on a decent average. No Doyley would mean a top 3 of Nick, Tobi & Killer/Batchelor which is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15590323._Title_winning_Robins_may_have_to_split_up___says_Rossiter/ Claims Ellis wants to stay. Would happily keep him. I guess that will be down to what Lakeskde do. Im sure lakeside will want both Ellis & Zach if they come up. Would love to see Adam and Zach back next year, but with Lakeside reportedly moving up, and Poole on the prowl for Ellis, it may not happen. If all riders from this year are available, I suspect it will be Bellego who moves on. I'd like to see him stay as I feel there is club loyalty there, but his end-of-season form probably makes him a bigger risk on his average. Someone will have to go, and he could be the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) For the first time in a long time we've options. Killer on a 7.1 is a must for me. Imagine Doyley, Nick & Killer as a top 3....would be a shame to not have Musielak mind. Edited October 12, 2017 by hyabb17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Funny, isn't it, how Poole and Somerset decided not to use Ellis and Wilson-Dean so they could get a 'proper' average. So Swindon signed them both, plus Doyle on 13, and won the league title. No disputing who got the team building right this year. They all got a 'proper' average during the season, enabling Swindon to strengthen up and cream everyone. Tbf I believe the plan was to fit him in for Graversen at some point when the rest of the team got proper averages but we let him get some experience at top level when Swindon couldn't fit a rider in (can't remember his name). Besides if Allen and BWD had been at reserve that was over 10pts used just on reserves, that was the other reason he wasn't picked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) That looks very top heavy, unless we can find another rider mid-season on a false average. Surely they'll close that loophole and any rider without a 2017 average will be subject to at least a 20% multiplier? Not sure if any multiplier would be needed from a 2015 average, Killers scores abroad have gone down and a lot of the average adjustments were due to all the mucking about with protected reserve riders etc in the last year or two. He might feel that riding back in the UK will help his riding in europe. Edited October 12, 2017 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Tbf I believe the plan was to fit him in for Graversen at some point when the rest of the team got proper averages but we let him get some experience at top level when Swindon couldn't fit a rider in (can't remember his name). Besides if Allen and BWD had been at reserve that was over 10pts used just on reserves, that was the other reason he wasn't picked Who let him get some experience? I know he is an asset but riders will ride where they want. Somerset didn't want him, Swindon did - job done. Considering he spent the bulk of the year at #2, he did a great job and I hope he does come back to Swindon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Not sure if any multiplier would be needed from a 2015 average, Killers scores abroad have gone down and a lot of the average adjustments were due to all the mucking about with protected reserve riders etc in the last year or two. He might feel that riding back in the UK will help his riding in europe. Not Kildemand specifically, but any rider without a 2017 average should be uplifted to reflect the weakening of the league. Although this is the BSPA we're talking about so they will likely let this slip through the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 But if the league is attracting back some of the top riders - not Kildemand specifically - then the league should be stronger not weaker!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Firstly, the league isn't attracting back top riders and secondly every year they reduce the points limit the league gets weaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) Not sure how you can say that as we don't know all the clubs or 1-7s yet? I wouldn't mind betting there will be more 'top' riders in next season's Premiership than this year's!! With Rosco reporting that the title-winning team will be split up - as happens with most title-winning teams - I wonder if that applies just to the 1-7?? Edited October 14, 2017 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealFiend Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Kildemand signed for Vastervik in Sweden so you can rule him out because PK will be doing Denmark and Poland as well. Doyle & Morris top 2 all day long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Kildemand signed for Vastervik in Sweden so you can rule him out because PK will be doing Denmark and Poland as well. Only if he signs for the top Polish League in 2018, his scores have not been that good this year. If he signs for the lower league or not at all he may be available to ride here. Edited October 16, 2017 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingRacer2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) 1. Jason Doyle 9.74 2. Kyle Newman 4.86 3. Troy Batchelor 7.49 4. Tobiasz Musielak 7.37 5. Nick Morris 8.77 6. Zach Wajtknecht 3.51 7. Danny Ayres 3.02 44.76 Edited October 16, 2017 by Danny Birds Of A Feather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 44.76 The points limit will be 42, if not lower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 The points limit will be 42, if not lower. Knowing the bspa I agree, which does not always help improving riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealFiend Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 42.00 points limit 1. Doyle 2. Wilson-Dean 3. Howarth 4. Ellis 5. N. Morris 6. Wajtknecht 7. 3.36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Hey Gater, you seem to be paying the Swindon thread plenty of attention. You getting tempted to come back from the dark side to support the Robins again? Didn't you desert the Robins a couple of years ago when the Pirates won the league? Keep on keeping on and one day someone will take you seriously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealFiend Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Hey Gater, you seem to be paying the Swindon thread plenty of attention. You getting tempted to come back from the dark side to support the Robins again? Didn't you desert the Robins a couple of years ago when the Pirates won the league? Keep on keeping on and one day someone will take you seriously. YAWN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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