A ORLOV Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Was looking forward to the possibility of seeing Connor Mountain at Swindon, we will next monday but unfortunately he has signed for Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: For the Leicester celebration meeting does anyone know what ex riders will be there.? most of the Leicester team by the look of it!!!! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: For the Leicester celebration meeting does anyone know what ex riders will be there.? Jonno was at Roscos pub a couple of weeks ago, he may be over for the GP and if near Swindon tomorrow he could be one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) I am very surprised that Swindon are still persevering with Smith. There was an ideal opportunity to replace him with Mountain (especially with Zach being out) and really surprised that Rosco has not made a change - although there are no better options now. They will continue to slide down the table without sorting out the reserves IMHO. Edited July 18, 2018 by Steve0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve0 said: I am very surprised that Swindon are still persevering with Smith. There was an ideal opportunity to replace him with Mountain (especially with Zach being out) and really surprised that Rosco has not made a change - although there are no better options now. They will continue to slide down the table without sorting out the reserves IMHO. Could not do a one for one switch Steve as our team average is above 42.5. If we did want to do that we would have had to get rid of a second rider but end up losing available points for a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Could not do a one for one switch Steve as our team average is above 42.5. If we did want to do that we would have had to get rid of a second rider but end up losing available points for a replacement. If Mountain (or anyone else) has an equal or lower average than Smith then he can be replaced - and needs to be because he is showing little or no improvement in his scoring ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Could not do a one for one switch Steve as our team average is above 42.5. If we did want to do that we would have had to get rid of a second rider but end up losing available points for a replacement. I thought Orlov maybe Swindon could of had Auty as cover only for David until he comeback and Connor was that to high.? Was thinking have Eastbourne got a rule in place to stop Tom Brennan getting different opportunities because i would of considered him or Connor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Smith has had plenty of opportunities and is unlikely to improve. At best he will reach a similar level to another former Swindon reserve...Nathan Greaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Jonno was at Roscos pub a couple of weeks ago, he may be over for the GP and if near Swindon tomorrow he could be one Johnno's moved down to Middlo's in the past few days. The JD has taken quite a hammering I gather!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, MattK said: We don't need a rider who is better than Bellego - anyone is better than R/R especially with Zak missing. Even when Zak is back it is a big ask for him to take up to three of Bellego's rides. Surely Bellego is not a longterm injury then.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Steve0 said: If Mountain (or anyone else) has an equal or lower average than Smith then he can be replaced - and needs to be because he is showing little or no improvement in his scoring ability. Agreed, but Mountains average was above Jacks so it leaves anyone with an average of 2 or below, but who is about ? Edited July 18, 2018 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Mountain has struggled at CL so I don't expect will score all that well at PL. Must admit I don't like teams making all these changes, makes a mockery of the winter team building and engenders no loyalty from riders. Oh for the days when teams stayed almost the same throughout the season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 46 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Surely Bellego is not a longterm injury then.? No, but we have five meetings in the next two weeks. We can't afford r/r for those meetings, with only Ellis and the reserves able to take a ride. By the time Bellego is back we could be out of play-off contention, especially if it is reduce to just the top three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: I thought Orlov maybe Swindon could of had Auty as cover only for David until he comeback and Connor was that to high.? Was thinking have Eastbourne got a rule in place to stop Tom Brennan getting different opportunities because i would of considered him or Connor. Auty could have covered for David but with Connor the total is too high Sid, only just, anyway Josh Auty and Connor now signed up with Leicester so you will be able to see what they are like on monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, MattK said: No, but we have five meetings in the next two weeks. We can't afford r/r for those meetings, with only Ellis and the reserves able to take a ride. By the time Bellego is back we could be out of play-off contention, especially if it is reduce to just the top three. It won't be the top 3. Why people still believe things this person says is beyond me. But you are 100% right. 2 weeks out is 2 weeks too long. We can't afford RR esp when we will get smashed tomo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 8 hours ago, MattK said: No, but we have five meetings in the next two weeks. We can't afford r/r for those meetings, with only Ellis and the reserves able to take a ride. By the time Bellego is back we could be out of play-off contention, especially if it is reduce to just the top three. Well if he is not back for some of those meetings the decision not to address the problem is strange.R/R is a massive problem lose tonight and the pressure is really on just hope David is back sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 9 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: Mountain has struggled at CL so I don't expect will score all that well at PL. Must admit I don't like teams making all these changes, makes a mockery of the winter team building and engenders no loyalty from riders. Oh for the days when teams stayed almost the same throughout the season. The thing is Speedy he has not totally struggled at Championship level he has found life difficult at Foxhall his away performances have been encouraging.Also the gap between both leagues now is very slim and his job at PREM level will be to try to get 2 or 3 points a meeting for Leicester looking in Mountain is certainly a better rider than Smith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingRacer2017 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Bellego should never have been signed in the first place on his 7.37 starting average, his form at the end of the 2017 season was very poor. ❌ I still find it mindblowing that Swindon chose Nick Morris over Jason Doyle, a newly crowned World Champion. Morris has been a shadow of the rider he was in 2017. ❌ Tobiasz Musielak can be class on a speedway bike, he reminds me of a young Per Jonsson, his riding style and passing ability is worth the admission price alone. ✔️ Adam and Zach, 2 young Brit’s who are improving all the time. ✔️ Troy Batchelor has been a sensation, double figures home and away most weeks. Signing of the season contender. ✔️ Jack Smith is just not good enough at this level, slow out the gate & slow machinery. It’s not rocket science, you don’t win the league with a 2 pointer at reserve. ❌ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ReadingRacer2017 said: Bellego should never have been signed in the first place on his 7.37 starting average, his form at the end of the 2017 season was very poor. ❌ I still find it mindblowing that Swindon chose Nick Morris over Jason Doyle, a newly crowned World Champion. Morris has been a shadow of the rider he was in 2017. ❌ Tobiasz Musielak can be class on a speedway bike, he reminds me of a young Per Jonsson, his riding style and passing ability is worth the admission price alone. ✔️ Adam and Zach, 2 young Brit’s who are improving all the time. ✔️ Troy Batchelor has been a sensation, double figures home and away most weeks. Signing of the season contender. ✔️ Jack Smith is just not good enough at this level, slow out the gate & slow machinery. It’s not rocket science, you don’t win the league with a 2 pointer at reserve. ❌ Dont agree one bit, with Doyley we could not of had a top 5 you are wrong on Morris and to assemble a top 5 like we have you have to have a 2 pointer.Bellego we all knew it would be impossible to get near to his average the previous year overall i am happy with the season.What you have to realise is where Rosco has been loyal to his riders in years to come hopefully???? riders who join us will remember that loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: The thing is Speedy he has not totally struggled at Championship level he has found life difficult at Foxhall his away performances have been encouraging.Also the gap between both leagues now is very slim and his job at PREM level will be to try to get 2 or 3 points a meeting for Leicester looking in Mountain is certainly a better rider than Smith. The additional experience of different teams and tracks will do no harm to him and glad you have realistic expectations. Some of these young Brits need time to develop, some more than others and I just wish teams were more stable to allow that to happen and for the fans to get to know their team. It really is now getting to be just a bunch of individuals and not really a team and that turns me off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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