Hel'n'Back Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 We were out gated in nearly every race. Heeps and Newman at reserve, end of story. We have just won the league and this is the first time the team have ridden at Owlerton. A total damp squid, no celebration. just a good hiding. That made all the tigers fan's that stand near me really p-ss-d off. That's how to promote speedway. Let the fans down.utt Hit the nail on the head! I was totally peed off too, haven't even seen the title winning cup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerowl Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Anyone who paid to go and watch that farce needs their head testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Total disgrace do they think we are all thick ,and the t v must be disillusioned and might never come to Sheffield again.I am not paying any more money out this season ,it was a setup,lets wait and see what happens on Thursday Ipswitch should wipe the floor with us . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Wow! I must admit that I did not see that coming. So I hold my hands up and eat mass helpings of humble pie! I'm just sorry that Speedway has made me this cynical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) The Sheffield Riders did nothing to enhance their reputations & Nicholls was embarrassing, but the difference was Leicester having Championship heat leaders at reserve. That is where Sheffield were outclassed. Edited October 10, 2017 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Rubbish track=too narrow for modern racing. Rubbish meeting=too many long intervals between races. Rubbish Scott Nicholls=Did they actually pay him for that? Surely BT Sport aren't going to bother with the second leg? I wouldn't blame them if they gave Speedway the heave-ho after that exhibition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 If that meeting was fixed last night I would be surprised that the score line went as it did. If fixed, I would suggest the home team would have lost by say 2 or 4 at home, and 10-12 away - more plausible then a 26 point home loss as it was. Relegation/Promotion should be done as in football - (but only) the top team goes up and the bottom team goes down. Its logical that a team going up would have to strengthen for a year in Premiership, that they would do between seasons. Having a straight play off at the end of a season, for it to be any sort of a great meeting (great enough to be televised) then the Premier league team would have to be really naff, and the Champions league team something really special for it to be a real success with real meaning. Clearly that wasn't so. Long time since I seen the Sheffield track (albeit on tv) and it look good and could produce good racing I'm sure, but for TV viewing, that was really poor last night, and there is a thought generally that "what you see last you remember first", well if that statement be true when BT comes to decide whether they take on British speedway in 2018 then I fear there will be no contract. And that's another reason I cant see last night was fixed, surely riders and promotors would know that TV companies need to show a good spectacle to keep viewers paying for the service. Another reason I don't think the meeting would have been fixed is that riders earn their money by scoring points. So who is saying Sheffield riders last night didn't want to earn a good wage last night? Or they had their wages made up? - if so by whom. Which promotor has enough money to just pay out quiet a sum of money to lose a much? Apart from anything else, if true, match fixing on the scale it was last night would be truly a serious offence liable for a big punishment. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Given the commonality in promoters this would be an easy meeting to fix. But if you were fixing it your main concern would be to maximise revenues for the two clubs. So Sheffield would have won narrowly last night, coming from behind to win in a last heat decider by say 48-42. That would be enough to please Tigers fans and encourage Lions fans to turn out for the second leg where they would win comfortably after a slow start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Promotion/Relegation was always doomed to fail, last night just confirmed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 There was no fixing of the score last night you could tell that by the look on Simon Steads face, you could tell he felt very let down by his teams performance. As others have said if you were to fix the result to keep fans and BT happy it would have been a Sheffield home win by 6-8 and then Leicester to win at home by 10 that way more fans attend the 2nd leg and BT have the excitement of Leicester fighting back The problem is how do motivate the team for the second leg with even Bates admitting on TV that the promotion has got away from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scunny2012 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Given the commonality in promoters this would be an easy meeting to fix. But if you were fixing it your main concern would be to maximise revenues for the two clubs. So Sheffield would have won narrowly last night, coming from behind to win in a last heat decider by say 48-42. That would be enough to please Tigers fans and encourage Lions fans to turn out for the second leg where they would win comfortably after a slow start. Agree with the above can't see many turning out at Leicester for the 2nd leg, Leicester may have won easily at Sheffield but the Leicester promotion have shot themselves in the foot, should have eased off halfway through especially with the team they have and at least given Sheffield supporters a bit of hope, most people including myself have said there is little difference in teams in the 2 leagues, how wrong was I especially with championship heat leader Heeps at reserve, it didn't help that Sheffield had their 2 top riders missing one replaced by a rider who should now think about just tv presenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 One thing we did learn last night is that Przedpelski is on a ban for withholding his sevices(that`s assuming Nigel Pearson is correct) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Without JG and KH they were never going to win it, but would have made it a better contest.Oops Josh Bates let slip he rides for both Teams Nigel and Kelvin were very quiet on that subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpandroid Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Doesn't matter what happens, if you like watching Speedway it'll be great, if you have allegiance to a particular vest and don't like any other then that could rather restrict your tv speedway viewing schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Promotion/Relegation was always doomed to fail, last night just confirmed it. Spot on. What a waste of time,and a gimmick meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonian Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) I'm sorry but if you thought last night was fixed you are deluded! It was clear to see on Steady's face that he was disappointed, angry and a bit lost for words when Brando was interviewing him. Ideally, Sheffield are better suited to the premiership, and I'd hazard a guess that Mr Bates, would sooner rather Sheffield were in the top division, than Leicester. I'm lost for words on some of these posts I have seen. To forget we won the league only a week or so ago, and the pairs victory on Sunday.. Some of the comments towards riders and club is embarrassing. You cannot stop doubling up. Riders cannot afford it, clubs cannot afford it, and its here to stay. I personally have no issue with it. As long as I see the same riders each week for MY team, I've no interest what other clubs they ride for. Edited October 10, 2017 by Bostonian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 One thing we did learn last night is that Przedpelski is on a ban for withholding his sevices(that`s assuming Nigel Pearson is correct) I think he said he's eligible for a ban didn't he? That's the way I heard it... doesn't mean he's going to get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 I'm sorry but if you thought last night was fixed you are deluded! It was clear to see on Steady's face that he was disappointed, angry and a bit lost for words when Brando was interviewing him. Ideally, Sheffield are better suited to the premiership, and I'd hazard a guess that Mr Bates, would sooner rather Sheffield were in the top division, than Leicester. I'm lost for words on some of these posts I have seen. To forget we won the league only a week or so ago, and the pairs victory on Sunday.. Some of the comments towards riders and club is embarrassing. You cannot stop doubling up. Riders cannot afford it, clubs cannot afford it, and its here to stay. I personally have no issue with it. As long as I see the same riders each week for MY team, I've no interest what other clubs they ride for. If two or three clubs close over the winter, that'll stop doubling-up as there'd only be one league, you'll soon see then that riders can get by without doubling-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILYRAG Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Then how come King Heeps and Newman were beatable and beaten two weeks ago and looked in a different class last night ? They scored 19 between the three of them in 14 rides in the play off first leg. Edited October 10, 2017 by OILYRAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 You lot are absolutely delusional. If it was a fix do you really think that they'd have set it up to be battered at home on telly? Really? Because that'll do some wonders for the crowd going forward. If it was a fix we'd have seen it a lot closer and then get slaughtered in the 2nd leg. But if it makes you feel better then keep the crazy conspiracy theories going! It was a pointless meeting to begin with, but hopefully we'll see a response on Thursday in a meeting that does have some meaning... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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