RobMcCaffery Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Re Cook, there have been far, far too many short-term illnesses amongst riders, mostly linked to trips to Poland or scheduled trips to inconvenient fixtures. It is essential that the cases of those suffering are thoroughly investigated and that the safety of other riders is not compromised ;-) I've never known a sport with so many short-term illnesses or miracle recoveries. Is it something in the methanol? Congratulations to the BSPA for finally tackling this and hopefully improving the long-term health of their competitors. Edited October 16, 2017 by Rob McCaffery 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Cook missing makes wolves clear favourites now. The only bonus is everyone can now have an r/r ride which means we dont need to use a reserve as we would for fricke. We need Tungate and worrall on top form to stand any chance. I will hold my opinion on the cook issue until me know more. So the away team who are missing 4 riders are favourites over the home team who are missing 2 riders ? Hmmm. Based on the last aborted attempt, it may well be that Bewley and Smith win the tie for Belle Vue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Re Cook, there have been far, far too many short-term illnesses amongst riders, mostly linked to trips to Poland or scheduled trips to inconvenient fixtures. It is essential that the cases of those suffering are thoroughly investigated and that the safety of other riders is not compromised ;-) I've never known a sport with so many short-term illnesses or miracle recoveries. Is it something in the methanol? Congratulations to the BSPA for finally tackling this and hopefully improving the long-term health of their competitors. The fact they finally decide to tackle the issue when it effects Belle Vue is purely coincidental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 So the away team who are missing 4 riders are favourites over the home team who are missing 2 riders ? Hmmm. Based on the last aborted attempt, it may well be that Bewley and Smith win the tie for Belle Vue. With a 10 point lead yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Workingtons Craig Cook says he's not riding. Workington say it's ok. Belle Vue get penalised. It's like if my next door neighbours say it's ok for their dog to take a dump outside my house and when I come out to complain the council official slaps me with a fine for dog fouling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 With a 10 point lead yes. Well we will see tonight, that's if the weather doesn't intervene again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Re Cook, there have been far, far too many short-term illnesses amongst riders, mostly linked to trips to Poland or scheduled trips to inconvenient fixtures. It is essential that the cases of those suffering are thoroughly investigated and that the safety of other riders is not compromised ;-) I've never known a sport with so many short-term illnesses or miracle recoveries. Is it something in the methanol? Congratulations to the BSPA for finally tackling this and hopefully improving the long-term health of their competitors. No problem with the BSPA finally dealing with this issue, as long as they do it across the board and consistently. As far as I'm aware the Management Committee have invoked this rule which opens the thorny problem of vested interests..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Well we will see tonight, that's if the weather doesn't intervene again ! Yep. Not rained so far today so fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 This is just Chapman's personal vendetta and the sooner he fu##ks off out of British speedway the better. Hmmm. An interesting viewpoint. Doesn't mean the poster is right tho. Or wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Well we will see tonight, that's if the weather doesn't intervene again ! Things happen in meetings but comparing the teams if Belle Vue don't win by more 10 it will be a big shock, possible but a big shock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Workingtons Craig Cook says he's not riding. Workington say it's ok. Belle Vue get penalised. It's like if my next door neighbours say it's ok for their dog to take a dump outside my house and when I come out to complain the council official slaps me with a fine for dog fouling! Not sure what options Workington had when a rider calls in sick at 2.30pm on the day of a meeting in Glasgow. Quite agree that Belle Vue have suffered damage in the fallout from something not of their making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Craig will miss Workingtons next away meeting at Glasgow on friday night (guest allowed) and with r/r for Thomas Jorgensen and Matt Williamson out injured its very doubtful that i will be making the trip to Glasgow. I can see the wrongs and rights from both sides, the BSPA by allowing the rider to recover from illness (or not ) and Craigs genuine illness but his teams lose out. http://speedwaygp.com/news/article/6177/cook-forced-out-of-cup Edited October 16, 2017 by topaz325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyb Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 The fact they finally decide to tackle the issue when it effects Belle Vue is purely coincidental. I think you'll find they did it to Peterborough yesterday re. BWD, so not coincidental 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Not sure what options Workington had when a rider calls in sick at 2.30pm on the day of a meeting in Glasgow. Quite agree that Belle Vue have suffered damage in the fallout from something not of their making. Funny coincidences about the Actual meetings that Cook has missed and the short notice involved. the mystery illness seems to be very selective as to when it kicks in and when it doesn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Workingtons Craig Cook says he's not riding. Workington say it's ok. Belle Vue get penalised. That's what doubling up/down does for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 IMO this meeting should be call off until next season when both teams can put out a 1 to 7 of their own riders and not guests and RR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Re Cook, there have been far, far too many short-term illnesses amongst riders, mostly linked to trips to Poland or scheduled trips to inconvenient fixtures. It is essential that the cases of those suffering are thoroughly investigated and that the safety of other riders is not compromised ;-) I've never known a sport with so many short-term illnesses or miracle recoveries. Is it something in the methanol? Congratulations to the BSPA for finally tackling this and hopefully improving the long-term health of their competitors. I would suggest that for short-term illnesses and miracle recoveries, you cannot look much further than football, especially the expensive sector. Miracle recoveries seem to be hastened by the appearance of yellow or red cards,or the award of a penalty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I think you'll find they did it to Peterborough yesterday re. BWD, so not coincidental Indeed. Some Belle Vue fans feeling rules are only aimed to punish them. Back in the real world an Aces team of 5 home riders faces a team of 3 Wolves riders with iffy guests. Aces can't lose this. Sooner we dump competitions like this the better. I've yet to read any post anywhere that anyone is interested in this competition. I'll have a look at the score later and be nonplussed whatever the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8scot Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Imagine if every worker in the country got a "7 day don't come back to work penalty" for being ill one day...... the country would grind to a halt very quickly Not all illnesses are contagious so that argument doesn't hold water either As if the teams weren't decimated enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Imagine if every worker in the country got a "7 day don't come back to work penalty" for being ill one day...... the country would grind to a halt very quickly Not all illnesses are contagious so that argument doesn't hold water either As if the teams weren't decimated enough "one day"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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