Aces51 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Cook not riding is good news for Wolves but still expect Belle Vue to win easily, shame we cant have full teamsIf true would mean we missing or second and third heat leaders so not necessarily easy at all. Could very much depend on who the guests are. Just seen the teams. Lawson and Worrall could score well, Lawson will gate first in at least a couple of races and Richie seems to be on form at the moment. Nicholls and Harris haven't impressed at the NSS and could cancel each other out. I think we will win but not sure we will by the 11 points we need. Edited October 15, 2017 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Cook should just have rang in and said his van had broken down on the way.. Seems you don't get banned for missing BSPA events for that...😂 Still, it creates another 'guestfest' meeting so not all bad news... It is only a FINAL after all...😲 Edited October 15, 2017 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Four guests and both teams using rider replacement - a fitting finale for "Premier Speedway 2017". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 If he fell ill a few hours before how can he possibly get a sick note? On a Saturday? He's not going down to a and e is he? In my industry anything over a week requires a sick note, but these lads are self employed so how a governing body can issue a ban for it is beyond me. There has to be some legality issue there and I'd be challenging it. That said, if he's fudging it then he deserves It, but there is no way the BSPA could possibly prove it and based on that, have no grounds to ban. This is just Chapman's personal vendetta and the sooner he f###ks off out of British speedway the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Its not a ban. Its a health issue. Standard guideline is that you should not return to work until at least 48 hours after sypmtoms cease in order to avoid the risk of cross infection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) It was said yesterday that Cook had been ill for a couple of days. https://twitter.com/OfficialComets It is an automatic 7 day ban for an illness that is not a Speedway injury. The BSPA Management Committee can give permission to allow a rider who produces a medical certificate within 48 hours to race within that 7 days. A rider who doesn't produce a medical certificate is banned from his next home meeting and the MC cannot change that. According to the press release this is a 7 day ban so presumably a medical certificate was produced. We may know more from the press release tomorrow. Edited October 15, 2017 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks123 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Must have some special dispensation as hes not done any shared events in 2017. Did Lambert not win the Pairs at the beginning of the season? Think he has missed 5 though if you include the British Championship. Cook should just have rang in and said his van had broken down on the way.. Seems you don't get banned for missing BSPA events for that... Still, it creates another 'guestfest' meeting so not all bad news... It is only a FINAL after all... Is this not the 2nd or 3rd time he has been ill this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Cook hasn't been banned. If he had failed to provide a sick note then he would have been suspended from Workingtons next home meeting of which there isn't one this season. The BSPA can allow a rider to race within seven days following a none speedway illness but they can also prevent them. This preventative measure has as far as I know never been implemented until now. Craig Cook is the captain of The Belle Vue Aces who have the home leg of the cup final tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Dont know why Wolves are not using Nick Morris Edited October 15, 2017 by foreverblue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Why why why does British speedway keep shooting it self in the foot. Its not clear yet why Cook is not being allowed to ride in tomorrow nights final.Wether its a ban or the BSPA are just stopping him from riding on a health clause but it seems to me at this time that its more than likely that its a punishment for missing the Championship final. Now I am not sideing with one side or the other but if the BSPA thinks that Cook needs punishing then thats what should happen but just punish Cook give him a hefty fine.But do not punish the sport or the club he rides for or the fans who are paying good money to watch a speedway final. The meeting has already lost numerous riders through injury which can't be helped but to omit another rider who can and wants to ride is just stupid. So Cook will have a night off and lose some money with a fine he would just have lost some money but still had to put a shift in both ways he is out of pocket and he would have been punished.But with a fine the sport will not have been punished his club will not have been punished by losing revenue due to his absence and the fans pockets will not have been punished by getting what they pay for a top home rider in the field instead of another guest or R/R. Will they ever learn do their best to keep the clubs earning and keep the fans happy if they do that they will keep them coming back. Edited October 15, 2017 by B.V 72 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 The BSPA can allow a rider to race within seven days following a none speedway illness but they can also prevent them. This preventative measure has as far as I know never been implemented until now.Actually, it was used all the time in the 90s and into the early 00s, certainly was being used in 2003. Did Lambert not win the Pairs at the beginning of the season? Think he has missed 5 though if you include the British Championship.Youre right, he did. I forgot about the Premiership Pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Dont know why Wolves are not using Nick Morris Think he's riding for Sheffield in the Promo-Releg Trophy TV showpiece at Leicester. plus the Wolves don't look ahead like they used to! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Cook missing makes wolves clear favourites now. The only bonus is everyone can now have an r/r ride which means we dont need to use a reserve as we would for fricke. We need Tungate and worrall on top form to stand any chance. I will hold my opinion on the cook issue until me know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Cook missing makes wolves clear favourites now. The only bonus is everyone can now have an r/r ride which means we dont need to use a reserve as we would for fricke. We need Tungate and worrall on top form to stand any chance. I will hold my opinion on the cook issue until me know more. Belle Vue are still clear favourites, Wolves have four riders missing and Harris has improved lately so Belle Vue even have the best guest! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Belle Vue are still clear favourites, Wolves have four riders missing and Harris has improved lately so Belle Vue even have the best guest! Harris will give 100% as always but hes never been great around belle vue and is unlikely to get close to what cook would score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastword Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Bjerre pulled out of open meeting in Poland after 3 rides yesterday. Anyone know why and will it affect his attendance at BV tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Bjerre pulled out of open meeting in Poland after 3 rides yesterday. Anyone know why and will it affect his attendance at BV tonight? That would be a tough break if Bjerre is out or carrying a knock. This fixture appears cursed. Edit: Bjerre mentions the meeting on his Twitter account but doesn't record any problems, so hopefully all good. Edited October 16, 2017 by Fourentee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 A FANS STATEMENT: I would like to congratulate the BSPA on dragging team speedway to such an all time low that all six teams riding tonight have declared rider-replacement in their respective line-ups. Is there any chance of the SCB suspending r/r for seven days as this "illness" is spreading rapidly! Most meetings are delayed by:- 1: rider rep meaning back to back heats for the riders. 2: Gardening at the starting gate. 3: Tractor racing. Any chance of a meeting running smoothly at this time of year? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Harris will give 100% as always but hes never been great around belle vue and is unlikely to get close to what cook would score. True but Harris is still better than Nicholls his opposite number tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 A FANS STATEMENT: I would like to congratulate the BSPA on dragging team speedway to such an all time low that all six teams riding tonight have declared rider-replacement in their respective line-ups. Is there any chance of the SCB suspending r/r for seven days as this "illness" is spreading rapidly! Most meetings are delayed by:- 1: rider rep meaning back to back heats for the riders. 2: Gardening at the starting gate. 3: Tractor racing. Any chance of a meeting running smoothly at this time of year? Plus numerous tape restarts, some justified but many not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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