RPNY Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 The retired and selfish Watt hasn't ridden a competitive race for roughly three months. If he beats one genuine GP rider in a race he'll have done well. He couldn't beat National League riders when last seen for Rye so it could be a complete embarrassment for him and the sport. No way can he be 100% fit and 100% prepared as this call up came late.. He shouldn't be so selfish by taking this spot in the line up. He retired and should stay that way.. The guy has moved halfway around the world,,broken bones, ridden through the pain barrier, struggled through tough times, he deserves the send off. More importantly he got this position b right. He's unlikely to trouble the other 15 but so what, would it make that much of a difference in Kurtz or someone was in it? I love my rose tinted memories Nothing wrong with that Sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 RPNYC said " The guy has moved halfway around the world,,broken bones, ridden through the pain barrier, struggled through tough times, he deserves the send off. More importantly he got this position b right. He's unlikely to trouble the other 15 but so what, would it make that much of a difference in Kurtz or someone was in it?" YES! Someone like Kurtz would be getting invaluable further experience to develop his career. Watt doesn't deserve a "send off" IMO because he rode on for far too long when he had neither the appetite for racing nor the ability. His Sell By date for being paid for racing expired at least four years ago. We all have problems in our personal life and we have to get on with our working lives or as he should have done - retire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Harsh but fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Waytogo has summed it up. Watt deserves no place in this field as he officially retired leaving both his UK & Polish team. I hope he enjoys his comeback for one meeting, rides safely but this is an important GP not a benefit meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Waytogo has summed it up. Watt deserves no place in this field as he officially retired leaving both his UK & Polish team. I hope he enjoys his comeback for one meeting, rides safely but this is an important GP not a benefit meeting. OF course initially he was just a meeting reserve with no great expectation of getting a place in the whole meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Hope Doyley brings it home with plenty to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I agree but now the situation has become ridiculous. Maybe he'll get a series wild card for 2018 and sponsorship from Monster. 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Waytogo has summed it up. Watt deserves no place in this field as he officially retired leaving both his UK & Polish team. I hope he enjoys his comeback for one meeting, rides safely but this is an important GP not a benefit meeting. Who said that he won't race in aussie , just because he left England & Polska? Kurtzy & JH probably should be in the meeting, BUT they didn't beat the old timer when it mattered at the aussie's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Kelly 41 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Too true. In this year's Aussie series about nine months ago David Watt out-rode and out-scored Batchelor, Morris, Fricke, Kurtz, Tungate and Holder over four meetings on four different tracks. Just because he dropped off the European scene this summer doesn't mean he didn't qualify to the Etihad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Bourke you summed it up, it was 9 months ago. Long time ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Too true. In this year's Aussie series about nine months ago David Watt out-rode and out-scored Batchelor, Morris, Fricke, Kurtz, Tungate and Holder over four meetings on four different tracks. Just because he dropped off the European scene this summer doesn't mean he didn't qualify to the Etihad. If he is capable of that kind of form - when in the mood, we are in for a great night's racing with Watt involved in a lot of dramatic heats. Or trailing in at the back, which is more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 Aussies in the last GP when the leading contender is an.....Aussie. The more Aussies there are the better the chance of THE Aussie getting enough points to win the title. Now how that is a boost for Aussie speedway. Not only 5 Aussies in the GP taking place in Aussie, but the opportunity of the first time an Aussie has been crowned world champion on his own soil. Be interesting how the "other 4" score against Doyle compared to how they score against Dudek. If they get half a chance they going to beat Dudek but not the Aus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 Aussies in the last GP when the leading contender is an.....Aussie. The more Aussies there are the better the chance of THE Aussie getting enough points to win the title. Now how that is a boost for Aussie speedway. Not only 5 Aussies in the GP taking place in Aussie, but the opportunity of the first time an Aussie has been crowned world champion on his own soil. Be interesting how the "other 4" score against Doyle compared to how they score against Dudek. If they get half a chance they going to beat Dudek but not the Aus. Not so sure Holder will be willing to gift Doyley anything especially with fighting for top 8 or attempting to lay down a marker re nominated spots next year guess it may depend at what point of meeting he meets Jason and whether he has any realistic chance of progressing to semis etc but Sedgman and Watt should be relatively easy prey and surely Masters will not bust a guy to beat him with no point in trying to prove anything won't reach final or be even considered for next year ..someone made the remark may as well hand Doyle title now rather disrespectful seeing as though if he clinches it this will be a well earndt victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 Aussies in the last GP when the leading contender is an.....Aussie. The more Aussies there are the better the chance of THE Aussie getting enough points to win the title. Now how that is a boost for Aussie speedway. Not only 5 Aussies in the GP taking place in Aussie, but the opportunity of the first time an Aussie has been crowned world champion on his own soil. Be interesting how the "other 4" score against Doyle compared to how they score against Dudek. If they get half a chance they going to beat Dudek but not the Aus. Dudek gets out in front of any of the Aussies - Doye included, they arent getting a sniff of him... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Dudek gets out in front of any of the Aussies - Doye included, they arent getting a sniff of him... Dudek CAN do that, but maybe a different thing when under pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Dudek CAN do that, but maybe a different thing when under pressure. AND on a relatively small track where some throttle control comes in handy rather than the full gas for four laps approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackHalifax Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Okay I will bite. The wild card being an incentive for the Aussie champ is a given and none is criticising that . Its Masters. The back up for any other rider is nothing to do with the staging authority it is part of last years challenge finishing positions. There is only 1 Aussie worthy of the Grand Prix and that is Doyley. The others haven't done enough to qualify or stay in. At no point should the three other Aussies be in there. The organisers should have told Iversen and co to make their mind up before shipping date as a deadline to give the genuine next in line people time to send their gear. As a footnote on current form they should have picked the inform Aussie to fill in for their balls up and left Watt at reserve for the nostalga, but they need to get it right or rename next years the Aussie Champs and have all 16 places. Then they can fit Crumpy, Pooley, Johno, Langdons etc as they all missed out on a nostalgic gp place 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1234 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Okay I will bite. The wild card being an incentive for the Aussie champ is a given and none is criticising that . Its Masters. The back up for any other rider is nothing to do with the staging authority it is part of last years challenge finishing positions. There is only 1 Aussie worthy of the Grand Prix and that is Doyley. The others haven't done enough to qualify or stay in. At no point should the three other Aussies be in there. The organisers should have told Iversen and co to make their mind up before shipping date as a deadline to give the genuine next in line people time to send their gear. As a footnote on current form they should have picked the inform Aussie to fill in for their balls up and left Watt at reserve for the nostalga, but they need to get it right or rename next years the Aussie Champs and have all 16 places. Then they can fit Crumpy, Pooley, Johno, Langdons etc as they all missed out on a nostalgic gp place Spot on post mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 ITs been explained why he is in. Im not sure how many more times or different ways it can be explained. Its rhe same way the British wildcard at Cardiff is chosen. It has been "explained" but the explanation is wrong. The Aus titles were used to decide the wildcard and two meeting reserves, fine, great. What the Aus title was NOT for was to decide the series reserves for the final round. Watt can be a reserve thats up to MA/BSI/FIM but the replacement for Iversen should be the declared GP reserve riders. We have 6 of them now, so where are they all? And nobody give me the bullrubbish that they couldn't get there, BSI/FIM should be sending the series reserves out with the rest of the field, it's a World Championship, not a travelling circus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 It has been "explained" but the explanation is wrong. The Aus titles were used to decide the wildcard and two meeting reserves, fine, great. What the Aus title was NOT for was to decide the series reserves for the final round. Watt can be a reserve thats up to MA/BSI/FIM but the replacement for Iversen should be the declared GP reserve riders. We have 6 of them now, so where are they all? And nobody give me the bullrubbish that they couldn't get there, BSI/FIM should be sending the series reserves out with the rest of the field, it's a World Championship, not a travelling circus. Exactly- Max Fricke pulled out on the 10th October- fully 18 days before this GP. If the will from the FIM/BSI had been there he would have been replaced properly !!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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