stevebrum Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, SCB said: While in theory I agree with you, I think Thorsell is so good at home it'll make zero difference there. Where the heat 14/13 difference will tell is away from home where a dodgy meeting from him is still too likely. Speedway Star have Jacob listed as 6th in away averages, with only Doyle, Morris, Freddie, Cook and Musielak above him. He is getting more consistent away from home season on season. He has to step up as number one now so that will make his upward trend a harder job but indications suggest even less likely to have dodgy meetings. I certainly hope that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Speedway Star have Jacob listed as 6th in away averages, with only Doyle, Morris, Freddie, Cook and Musielak above him. He is getting more consistent away from home season on season. He has to step up as number one now so that will make his upward trend a harder job but indications suggest even less likely to have dodgy meetings. I certainly hope that is the case. 6th in the away averages where he rode in heat 14 and probably got 3 points vs riding in heat 13 and getting 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, SCB said: 6th in the away averages where he rode in heat 14 and probably got 3 points vs riding in heat 13 and getting 0. Including heat 15's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Including heat 15's. Which he only rode in if he'd done well in his programmed rides because he had Lindgren, Masters and Schlein in the team to take away the pressure. There will be no hiding when he#s at number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, SCB said: Which he only rode in if he'd done well in his programmed rides because he had Lindgren, Masters and Schlein in the team to take away the pressure. There will be no hiding when he#s at number 1. Of course. The fact is he has improved his away performances year on year. He will need to do the same in 2018. With even less true number ones in the league it shouldn't be that difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Could be similar to anders henriksson at newport , a fellow swede who was superb at home and pretty poor away riding at numbers 3/4, once Watson left he was thrown in at number one and in his final season with Newport he ended up as one of the top riders in the league with massively improved away performances. Cant see Thorsell struggling too much at 1 in this watered down league to be honest, but will have to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Happy New Year to all and lets hope for a good season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Called in on Peter Adams the other day and he spoke to CVS on Christmas eve and the operation appears to have gone well but obviously this is the start.of a long fight to get better but hopefully all is going in the bright direction. On previous posts above there is obviously some concern over Jacob taking over as s number one as he has mainly ridden as a secnd string not just this season but for the last few. Yes he has had the easier heat 14 rather than 13 and ridden with Rory Schlein in three of his four programmed rides but he has improved vastly in recent times and his scores away have been much better but despite the league losing more big names there is a small concern he can do the job that Freddie would have done. Maybe he may lose the number one slot to Sam Masters anyway by the first set of averages but he is a rider that loves riding for the club and I'm sure he will do a good job with Sam, Rory and Kyle leading the team. My concern with the team is Cameron Heaps and Ashley Morris but have to admit I'm not that well up on Heaps at first hand and can only go on figures from match reports largely while Morris just seems to have been around for a while without really improving that much to make him the main reserve. With Max Clegg available on a 2.00 average I would have thought he was just as effective as Morris and that would have left enugh to have bought in someone like Ricky Wells in the top five as a few teams are going with two low average reserves. Hopefully the team will prove me wrong and hit the ground running but looking at the possible matches ahead it has to be said that most teams don' look that apealling and think a number of tracks may find attendances down this year ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 No need for concern re Cam Heeps TNT Always had great talent and finally seems clear of his serious wrist injury issues (long may it continue) That coupled with a more mature focused approach gives him a chance to realise his potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Interesting comment in Speedway Star today saying that Woffy was seriously considering racing in the UK in 2018 with 2 night racing being introduced. Until he was told his average was about to 'rocket'. Wonder if the original line up might have been Fred, Piotr and Tai? ? That would have been awesome! ! Even Jacob plus the duo would have been superb. According to SS it looks like Vacilik will be an 8 as a newcomer, yet others who missed racing here in 2016 could be different, you just can't try and make a bigger mess up if you tried! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces High Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Shame, although Tai on a 9 would make more sense than Thorssell on 8.64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Interesting comment in Speedway Star today saying that Woffy was seriously considering racing in the UK in 2018 with 2 night racing being introduced. Until he was told his average was about to 'rocket'. Wonder if the original line up might have been Fred, Piotr and Tai? ? That would have been awesome! ! Even Jacob plus the duo would have been superb. According to SS it looks like Vacilik will be an 8 as a newcomer, yet others who missed racing here in 2016 could be different, you just can't try and make a bigger mess up if you tried! We can't afford Lindgren... so little hope of affording three of them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Aces High said: Shame, although Tai on a 9 would make more sense than Thorssell on 8.64. Think he might had been using the average thing for an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 hours ago, stevebrum said: Interesting comment in Speedway Star today saying that Woffy was seriously considering racing in the UK in 2018 with 2 night racing being introduced. Until he was told his average was about to 'rocket'. Wonder if the original line up might have been Fred, Piotr and Tai? ? That would have been awesome! ! Even Jacob plus the duo would have been superb. According to SS it looks like Vacilik will be an 8 as a newcomer, yet others who missed racing here in 2016 could be different, you just can't try and make a bigger mess up if you tried! No wonder it was voted down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 10 hours ago, BWitcher said: We can't afford Lindgren... so little hope of affording three of them. I doubt Pawlicki would have been as expensive as Lindgren. He is not a GP rider anymore, so I see no reason why he shouldn't come back on his 7.32 2014 average. Would have reveled in proving himself as a #1 in a league. Would have been a much better option than Thorsell & Masters & Schlien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Col said: I doubt Pawlicki would have been as expensive as Lindgren. He is not a GP rider anymore, so I see no reason why he shouldn't come back on his 7.32 2014 average. Would have reveled in proving himself as a #1 in a league. Would have been a much better option than Thorsell & Masters & Schlien. Other than it had already been stated he had been re-assessed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 But so was Vaculik, who is now 8. Apparently.. If the BSPA were capable of publishing facts, this sport would not be in the mess it is in. The uncertainty certainly erks me allot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie456 Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just hope we didn't jump the gun in signing the riders have a nagging doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Wolfie456 said: Just hope we didn't jump the gun in signing the riders have a nagging doubt. They will probably say once the season starts riders can return to their original averages to make it even more of a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguest Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 Another issue - is what Ave would Fred be on if we needed him. We all agree clarity is needed. Maybe a calclator system could be linked to the BSPA website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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