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But what about if Jacob is half the price of Freddie?

 

Not such a simple choice in my opinion

Very True bud that is correct .

 

I wasn't taking finances into account. I do not think Jacob will be any value on that average at number 1 i think he will struggle at too many away tracks.

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Thinking about the situation at number one and how other teams will be affected by the loss of a TV deal there is a third option that may be more beneficial to the club and league.

 

Both Freddie and Jacob are great riders but both have to be flown in and out due to Polish and Sweden fixtures but going with a more balanced team if riders based here could be the way to go and considering how others may line up.

 

So with Sam Masters Rory Schlein Ricky Wells and Kyle Howarth you have four solid scorers and 13.47 left for the last three. This could mean more strength in depth and should rider replacement ever be required less damage obtained.

 

1 Sam Masters 7.92

2 Kyle Howarth 6.64

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4 Ricky Wells 6.75

5 Rory Schlein 7.72

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7

 

King 6.66 Becker 4.00 Greaves 2.54

 

Erik Riss 5.75 Starke 5.08 Greaves 2.54

 

Erik Riss 5.75 Stu Robson 5.72 JPB 2.00

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Thinking about the situation at number one and how other teams will be affected by the loss of a TV deal there is a third option that may be more beneficial to the club and league.

Both Freddie and Jacob are great riders but both have to be flown in and out due to Polish and Sweden fixtures but going with a more balanced team if riders based here could be the way to go and considering how others may line up.

So with Sam Masters Rory Schlein Ricky Wells and Kyle Howarth you have four solid scorers and 13.47 left for the last three. This could mean more strength in depth and should rider replacement ever be required less damage obtained.

1 Sam Masters 7.92

2 Kyle Howarth 6.64

3

4 Ricky Wells 6.75

5 Rory Schlein 7.72

6

7

King 6.66 Becker 4.00 Greaves 2.54

Erik Riss 5.75 Starke 5.08 Greaves 2.54

Erik Riss 5.75 Stu Robson 5.72 JPB 2.00

Already looking like a bottom 4 side IMHO.

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As CVS was unable to attend the AGM I wonder if he has a case to propose the '8 & over' rule be relaxed for all SGBP clubs?? I'm sure he'd now get support from say 5 clubs?!

It was only Premiership clubs that voted on it and 4 voted for it and three against it with Aces unable to vote

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You would think that as it was Poole who proposed it and they will be the main benefactors of it

 

No no no.

 

We have to keep British Speedway going.

 

British Speedway wants to provide good close racing and not one sided meetings.

 

Also some clubs aren't blessed with funds so it's good to cut costs up and down the country in order to make sure those teams aren't running at a loss.

 

Therefore 1 rider over 8.00 on each team is a very fair ruling imo (Cost cutting and should ensure closer meetings)

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Why were they unable to vote?

New promotion so unable to vote even though Mark Lemon was there

 

Poole voted against it with Wolves and Swindon

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You know that Col is always going to say something negative about every Wolves team. Once a spoon.....

 

Nope. Just honest. I was correct about your pre-season announced line-up last year. It was terrible, mostly due to Skornicki. Luckily despite "Adam being a Wolves legend" & "Adam wears his heart on his sleeve" claims by the forum mob, your management were savvy enough to realise their mistake early.

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Nope. Just honest. I was correct about your pre-season announced line-up last year. It was terrible, mostly due to Skornicki. Luckily despite "Adam being a Wolves legend" & "Adam wears his heart on his sleeve" claims by the forum mob, your management were savvy enough to realise their mistake early.

Apparently Schlien was meant to sign at thestart of the year but due to the BV situation was not allowed to be signed until they had their team. Then Coventry didn't run and Bjerre who had signed for the bees given the nod so Schlien was left out at the start.

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CVS seems to be really upset by the Freddie/Jacob situation. I hope his concerns have been felt by the rest of the league. I wouldn't be against any decision. Will support whoever is given the nod.

I would be, CVS has stuck with Jacob from the start, he's turned into a really good rider, Freddie belongs at Wolves, they should be racing for Wolves, this rule needs to be overruled ........ if promoters think there are riders out there that are on stupidly low averages, then reassess them ..... as they have done with the GP boys, we want clubs to start on levelish playing fields.

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No no no.

 

We have to keep British Speedway going.

 

British Speedway wants to provide good close racing and not one sided meetings.

 

Also some clubs aren't blessed with funds so it's good to cut costs up and down the country in order to make sure those teams aren't running at a loss.

 

Therefore 1 rider over 8.00 on each team is a very fair ruling imo (Cost cutting and should ensure closer meetings)

Just think this rule could affect Poole big time this year if they sign Holder.Both he and Kurtz might not ride to their full potential to keep their averages under 8 just in case the rule is still in force next year.If they both go over 8 a team place could be hard to find the following season for one of them which could affect some meeting results over the season.

If you want to see riders under perform with one eye on his average and not going all out to win a race / Meeting then the 1 over 8 is

a great rule.If you want them to go flat out and win a race /meeting for their team then it is a crap rule.

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I would be, CVS has stuck with Jacob from the start, he's turned into a really good rider, Freddie belongs at Wolves, they should be racing for Wolves, this rule needs to be overruled ........ if promoters think there are riders out there that are on stupidly low averages, then reassess them ..... as they have done with the GP boys, we want clubs to start on levelish playing fields.

 

The same at Swindon, of course, who have stuck with Morris for years and had to choose betwen him and Doyle - both Swindon assets.

 

It's not just about team strength. The points limit sets a team strength. This was, I believe, an attempt to get Grand Prix riders out of the league.

 

Thorsell, in particular, could be a victim here. If Wolves sign Lindgren, will one of the other clubs sign Thorsell as a number one? And he is ruled out of the Second Division now, too.

 

It's not quite so bad with Doyle, I guess, who, even if he doesn't get a UK team place, will be ok as World Champion. This was not a vote for the good of the clubs without 8 point riders - it was, it seems, brought in to bring other clubs down. How can that be a good thing? All it is doing is making supporters of Belle Vue, Swindon and Wolves fed up with part of the sport.

 

The clubs in the league should not be voting for the rules because they are all voting for themselves. The rules should be set in stone from an independent source.

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Only worry going with Jacob over Freddie is his away form.

 

His form at Monmore was brilliant at all times last season even though he was riding at 3 or 4 majority of it.

 

As a number 1 added with his previous away form I wouldn't be entirely comfortable going into the season, and that is not accounting for him coming back from a serious injury either.

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