stevebrum Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 The 2017 riders not in the 2018 series are not current, they are 'has beens' Fair point! However surely "GP standard as fits those riders who rode in the current season and next season qualification already assured (excludes those who rode as a wildcard, reserves Numbers 17 and 18 and having ridden 2 or less rounds)" is about as transparent as you can get ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Chris Holder never finished the season so his average is just based on pretty much half a season. He should be a 9 along with all the other GP riders I am led to believe this rule covers riders who rode in zero meetings during 2017 and in GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I see it as a cost cutting exercise ensuring that none of those riders could be signed even if they wanted to. The fact that some clubs aren't keen to sign the TV deal speaks volumes about how much money they expect to lose out on. Certainly not enough for the top boys. Should that not be a choice for each club to make if a few clubs want to sign a top heavy team with two 8/9 point riders and can afford to do so.As long as the team is within the points limit what's the problem. Even the clubs fans that choose not to sign the top stars will get to see a few GP riders when these top heavy teams visit their club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I am led to believe this rule covers riders who rode in zero meetings during 2017 and in GP. nobody knows though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 They should just include the word 'current' to the rule... No, there just wasn't enough space on the beermat they were writing on, when the rule was written down, to include the word "current". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 So once again, Ford engineering things for his benefit. The cancer returns. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Ha ha. If that's true he's mugged them off good and proper if he signs Holder. A very low points limit last year plus a change in race formula. He's been mugging speedway promoters for years that's why Frost and Sandu made a stance in 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 why not make it 8 for GP riders. as with the one over 8 rule you could only have 1 of them anyway if you wanted. Certain members of the BSPA don't do compromise. Ford the instigator of last season's gp riders being given 9 point averages according to CVS. Looks like it was directly aimed at wolves and belle Vue - pawlicki, woffy, Zafar all on sub 8 average or would have been... Surprise, surprise. So once again, Ford engineering things for his benefit. The cancer returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) So once again, Ford engineering things for his benefit. The cancer returns. Sorry? What are you on about? Making sweeping statements about someone over hearsay? Edited November 28, 2017 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 BW trying to send PM but it looks like your inbox is full! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliss44 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Sorry? What are you on about? Not so long ago my beloved Dad died of cancer and he asked me to put into simplistic terms what cancer did. My explanation was just to say that cancer eats away at the goodness in life. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Chris Holder never finished the season so his average is just based on pretty much half a season. He should be a 9 along with all the other GP riders And so it begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alkadera Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 nobody knows though This is my understanding from what was said last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 And so it begins. So what begins? You ahve been on pretty much every teams threads commenting on line ups and being wide of the mark every time. I mention one thing and away you go! Give it a rest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Should that not be a choice for each club to make if a few clubs want to sign a top heavy team with two 8/9 point riders and can afford to do so.As long as the team is within the points limit what's the problem. Even the clubs fans that choose not to sign the top stars will get to see a few GP riders when these top heavy teams visit their club. Don't get me wrong. I completely agree. It seems that the 1 over 8 rule has been made to benefit the weakest and in the process dumb down to their level. Such a shame when some clubs are able to bring quality to the league. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 So what begins? You ahve been on pretty much every teams threads commenting on line ups and being wide of the mark every time. I mention one thing and away you go! Give it a rest What have I got wrong? Said Manzares to Scunthorpe. Said Starke to Glasgow. I even said Mountain would be back at Ipswich and the majority of your fans said he wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Sorry? What are you on about? Making sweeping statements about someone over hearsay? Hardly sweeping statements. It's been happening for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 What have I got wrong? Said Manzares to Scunthorpe. Said Starke to Glasgow. I even said Mountain would be back at Ipswich and the majority of your fans said he wouldn't. You said Manzares would also be at Wolves which has been confirmed as wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Even a stopped clock etc etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 You said Manzares would also be at Wolves which has been confirmed as wrong. I said the rumour is Manzares Wolves / Scunthorpe D/UP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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