Taylorj Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 He certainly has a way with words even if it turns out like a knocked over scrabble board. Jesus Christ please don't encourage him !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 He certainly has a way with words even if it turns out like a knocked over scrabble board. d'you mean a 'bad ars cobbler' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Wasn't a bad meeting at all that, once we got going?? Some very good racing between two pretty evenly matched sides and the tight result was indicitive of how this season has gone in all the matches we've played!! Disappointing to lose Cookie at such an important stage of the meeting but a nice rally round at the end and a last heat decider to tip the balance in our favour, despite the poor season it was good to end on a high with a win and finally seeing the "real" Robert Lambert on show!! Just hoping now that that was just the last meeting of the season at home for us and "not" the last meeting full stop?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) On a more positive note, the racing was quite decent at times. Lambert had his best meeting at derwent park by a country mile and looked class. Woolley, bowtell and dugard are the rider's who should be filling the reserve berths at this level imo, not the likes of sarjeant who should be able to hold his own at second string by now (he was impressive last night). 7pm start should mean 7pm start though, unless there are exceptional circumstances, which I really don't think there were yesterday. That meeting should have been wrapped up by 9pm last night, as it should be every week. It's October, it's cold and there is very little excuse for what happened last night. We're down to the die hards now, who'll turn up every week regardless, but will still have a whinge. Problem is if you're not a die hard you won't whinge, you just won't turn up, which is what's happened (not only here by the sounds of it). The popular side Cafe was opened with positivity but that's ebbed away at an alarming rate and already seems almost abandoned, with the two initial generators being first reduced to one and then none. Customer is king, if they don't turn up its not their fault, it's yours to put it bluntly. I really hope we do get things right and continue, and I do understand people are losing money and it's not easy, but it's so frustrating watching this sport sleepwalk from one short sighted disaster to another. I'll take a little exception to what you have said here. Meetings should start on time but we can all forgive a one off because they happen in the best promoted clubs. To my knowledge, Workington haven't had another one like Saturday this season. While I think that the organisation and running of meetings could definitely be better, Workington's track is better than many, so you almost always see decent racing. Pricing is as cheap as any other Championship club. The team at the start of the season looked good to me, and Hoggy is as good as any and better than most. Overall, its definitely one of my favourite tracks. If all the above isn't enough, I could question precisely what the people of Workington want from their speedway club. Edited October 9, 2017 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) I'll take a little exception to what you have said here. Meetings should start on time but we can all forgive a one off because they happen in the best promoted clubs. To my knowledge, Workington haven't had another one like Saturday this season. While I think that the organisation and running of meetings could definitely be better, Workington's track is better than many, so you almost always see decent racing. Pricing is as cheap as any other Championship club. The team at the start of the season looked good to me, and Hoggy is as good as any and better than most. Overall, its definitely one of my favourite tracks. If all the above isn't enough, I could question precisely what the people of Workington want from their speedway club. It was a delayed start the last time Newcastle were there (it must be a Newcastle thing lol), but can't say about any others, as the only time I visit now is when the Diamonds are there ( I was there most weeks when I filmed for GRT Media in 2006.!) Edited October 9, 2017 by Steve Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory peck Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'll take a little exception to what you have said here. Meetings should start on time but we can all forgive a one off because they happen in the best promoted clubs. To my knowledge, Workington haven't had another one like Saturday this season. While I think that the organisation and running of meetings could definitely be better, Workington's track is better than many, so you almost always see decent racing. Pricing is as cheap as any other Championship club. The team at the start of the season looked good to me, and Hoggy is as good as any and better than most. Overall, its definitely one of my favourite tracks. If all the above isn't enough, I could question precisely what the people of Workington want from their speedway club. I was just asking a fellow supporter the same on Saturday night,well actually I had to shout,he was 100 metres away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlislecomet2 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Its a very good point you make Halifaxtiger regarding 'what do the people of Workington want from their speedway club', I have been asking myself that all season as the crowds have continued to dwindle. Unfortunately the only people who go on the forums are the die hard supporters, therefore it is very difficult to know. It doesn't help though that the official website is never up to date and the unofficial site has been closed down for some reason. Yes there have been one or two niggles and certain things could definitely have been handled better which has resulted in the season falling away somewhat, however the track has been good (apart from last Saturday) and fair to all, and the racing has generally been entertaining. I don't attend away fixtures so therefore don't know how attendances are standing up at other tracks, but we are certainly struggling at Workington. Maybe the promoters in conjunction with the local press can canvass the local population to try and find out what would entice people back, as obviously a good track, good racing and watching the local lad and British Champion is not enough for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory peck Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Its a very good point you make Halifaxtiger regarding 'what do the people of Workington want from their speedway club', I have been asking myself that all season as the crowds have continued to dwindle. Unfortunately the only people who go on the forums are the die hard supporters, therefore it is very difficult to know. It doesn't help though that the official website is never up to date and the unofficial site has been closed down for some reason. Yes there have been one or two niggles and certain things could definitely have been handled better which has resulted in the season falling away somewhat, however the track has been good (apart from last Saturday) and fair to all, and the racing has generally been entertaining. I don't attend away fixtures so therefore don't know how attendances are standing up at other tracks, but we are certainly struggling at Workington. Maybe the promoters in conjunction with the local press can canvass the local population to try and find out what would entice people back, as obviously a good track, good racing and watching the local lad and British Champion is not enough for some. The Workington publics sporting clubs are on their knees the rugby club can't sink any lower,the football club is light years away from league status,and comets are heading the same way,it doesn't seem to matter to the fickle supporters about entertainment,it's about winning titles,and comets have never really looked like doing so the last 3 or 4 years,hence the decline,cook has carried the team for the majority of the year,without any real consistent support,far too many blank weekends at the height of summer, the Roynon/serjeant fiasco,management not listening when the team needed a change of riding order,shuttleworth doing a runner,a team manager set in his ways,and yes I am a regular these are the concerns of some I've spoken to who don't go anymore,it's really sad how things have got to this,the last few weeks in a virtually empty stadium compared to how things once were,also the ridiculous rules and regulations that seem to appear willy nilly which benefit some but not others Edited October 9, 2017 by gregory peck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Its a very good point you make Halifaxtiger regarding 'what do the people of Workington want from their speedway club', I have been asking myself that all season as the crowds have continued to dwindle. Unfortunately the only people who go on the forums are the die hard supporters, therefore it is very difficult to know. It doesn't help though that the official website is never up to date and the unofficial site has been closed down for some reason.Yes there have been one or two niggles and certain things could definitely have been handled better which has resulted in the season falling away somewhat, however the track has been good (apart from last Saturday) and fair to all, and the racing has generally been entertaining.I don't attend away fixtures so therefore don't know how attendances are standing up at other tracks, but we are certainly struggling at Workington.Maybe the promoters in conjunction with the local press can canvass the local population to try and find out what would entice people back, as obviously a good track, good racing and watching the local lad and British Champion is not enough for some.I think fans are just fed up with the nonsense that the sport has become,it's a decent track and has some good racing,like my visits there.Here's hoping the racing continues next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 I think fans are just fed up with the nonsense that the sport has become,it's a decent track and has some good racing,like my visits there.Here's hoping the racing continues next season. Agreed . Workington produces great racing at times . It's the rules and regulations that strangle the sport that chase people away from the sport . If Workington close , and I sincerely hope it doesn't , it's the governing body in this country to blame . Promoters must be tearing their hair out at times as their efforts to try and run the sport at their track are undermined by riders being able to ride here , there and everywhere except for where their promoter wants them to be . What other sport could have this scenario - KO Cup quarter final Glasgow v Newcastle . 1ST Leg - Glasgow's top rider , Richard Lawson can't ride in the tie as he is riding for another team that night . So Glasgow bring in Edinburgh's Ricky Wells to ride in his place for Glasgow against Newcastle . 2nd Leg - Newcastle's top rider , Robert Lambert , can't ride in the tie as he was allegedly injured in Poland the day before despite winning his four races there . So Newcastle bring in Edinburgh's Ricky Wells to ride in his place for Newcastle against Glasgow . How are promoters supposed to attract supporters to meetings and bring in sponsorship money when we get this kind of thing ? Unless the BSPA wakes up and realises that they've sleepwalked the sport to the edge of oblivion , tracks will continue to close as fed up supporters give up and find something a bit more credible to enjoy . 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Agreed . Workington produces great racing at times . It's the rules and regulations that strangle the sport that chase people away from the sport . If Workington close , and I sincerely hope it doesn't , it's the governing body in this country to blame . Promoters must be tearing their hair out at times as their efforts to try and run the sport at their track are undermined by riders being able to ride here , there and everywhere except for where their promoter wants them to be . What other sport could have this scenario - KO Cup quarter final Glasgow v Newcastle . 1ST Leg - Glasgow's top rider , Richard Lawson can't ride in the tie as he is riding for another team that night . So Glasgow bring in Edinburgh's Ricky Wells to ride in his place for Glasgow against Newcastle . 2nd Leg - Newcastle's top rider , Robert Lambert , can't ride in the tie as he was allegedly injured in Poland the day before despite winning his four races there . So Newcastle bring in Edinburgh's Ricky Wells to ride in his place for Newcastle against Glasgow . How are promoters supposed to attract supporters to meetings and bring in sponsorship money when we get this kind of thing ? Unless the BSPA wakes up and realises that they've sleepwalked the sport to the edge of oblivion , tracks will continue to close as fed up supporters give up and find something a bit more credible to enjoy . As much as we dislike all this doubling up and teams losing all credibility and identity until the powers that be listen to what supporters all over Britain are so annoyed about then things are only going to get worse . I would like to see BSPA do something constructive about it even if it means de- strengthening of teams. Like most other fans I am sick to the teeth with doubling up and the only thing I've heard Chapman say is there looking about having more guests for 2018 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 The Workington publics sporting clubs are on their knees the rugby club can't sink any lower,the football club is light years away from league status,and comets are heading the same way,it doesn't seem to matter to the fickle supporters about entertainment,it's about winning titles,and comets have never really looked like doing so the last 3 or 4 years,hence the decline,cook has carried the team for the majority of the year,without any real consistent support,far too many blank weekends at the height of summer, the Roynon/serjeant fiasco,management not listening when the team needed a change of riding order,shuttleworth doing a runner,a team manager set in his ways,and yes I am a regular these are the concerns of some I've spoken to who don't go anymore,it's really sad how things have got to this,the last few weeks in a virtually empty stadium compared to how things once were,also the ridiculous rules and regulations that seem to appear willy nilly which benefit some but not others Glad to see someone else shares my views on the town's sporting clubs and the first part of the first paragraph says it all, no matter what version your poison entertainment is secondary to success? If you are successful you can guarantee a healthy following, if your competitive you can just about get by without winning trophies but no way will people accept any old tosh week after week, season after season just on the basis of "well at least you have a team to watch" (aka, Workington RL) that's not what it's about? Comets tho, to their credit, have fielded entertaining sides, they've fielded competitive sides but they can't, for some reason, field a winning one, townsfolk see the league dwindling in size and yet despite that they still dont see Comets win any major trophies or even get into the business end of the season to even challenge for them It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what will happen? Sadly, as far as the Comets are concerned, I think the damage has already been done with regards to getting the big crowds back, there's been too many false dawn's, too many season's starting like the hare and finishing like the tortoise, too many summer breaks, too many season's racing league matches when the title has already been won, it just put's people off going, stupid rules, as suggested already, make the sport a joke and very difficult to take seriously? For the Comets to have a chance they have to have far more consistency as a team "and" continuity with regards to actually being out on track racing when you should be, rain offs aside that is, and try and keep the support focussed on Saturday night racing, no good complaining about poor crowds when you haven't been seen for weeks, do something about it, dont just stick rigidly to a fixture list, try anything and let people know that you're doing something to alleviate the issues, they'll stand a much better chance of being believed than they are now with their usual "once in a blue moon" outburst? I've already said that I just live in hope for next year, if we run I dont care what day of the week they choose I'll be there, lurking in the shadows, just like the last nigh on twenty years , to the bitter end I'll see it thru so........roll on next March????? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Friday 20th October Glasgow v the Workington Comets at the Peugeot Ashfield Stadium Tapes Up 7.30pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 Friday 20th October Glasgow v the Workington Comets at the Peugeot Ashfield Stadium Tapes Up 7.30pm Must be really difficult for our lads to maintain focus for another week and a half before racing this meeting and even longer when you consider the Newcastle match isn't on the board yet, at least, not that I'm aware of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted October 12, 2017 Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Must be really difficult for our lads to maintain focus for another week and a half before racing this meeting and even longer when you consider the Newcastle match isn't on the board yet, at least, not that I'm aware of? The Redcar S.G.Petch Bears will be racing at Newcastle on Sunday 22nd October in a double header featuring Workington. The Bears will be missing a number of riders including the injured Charles Wright, Jason Garrity and Danny Ayres with their replacements being named shortly........From Redcar site Edited October 12, 2017 by KEITH M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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