RebelDan Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Bellego? I hope not, I'd take JG over Bellego without question Josh could be in high demand now being on a sub 8 point average, I hope he remains at Somerset but could easily see him back at Swindon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I hope not, I'd take JG over Bellego without question Josh could be in high demand now being on a sub 8 point average, I hope he remains at Somerset but could easily see him back at Swindon. Poole asset as is wright so Matt will take the biggest loan fee. Sure they will be back at Somerset though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 If your not going to use a rider why should you demand a loan fee ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Poole asset as is wright so Matt will take the biggest loan fee. Sure they will be back at Somerset though. Knowing he is now an in demand rider could he maybe use that to his advantage to get a team further North. We know Josh is based I think up Sheffield way ?? and it was a massive round trip for him on worse traffic night of the week (Friday) to do week in and week out. Over the last 4 plus years this guy has done so much doubling up and guesting around the UK its been unreal and now he also has Poland etc. Maybe he will look at reducing the mind sapping weekly commute and look at options nearer to home ?? Just a thought. Also the Forum on all PREM topics is awash with this 8 point rule. I personally think it would be so much easier for many to swallow if the BSPA/SCB said ok this is the situation on riders GSA's for 2018 in Prem. Riders who rode up to season xyz will be assessed at their last GSA. Riders who rode prior to this will be assessed at abc or reassessed individually and say taking the ?? seasons prior to the above those riders (name if need be) will be cde Riders who have never ridden in Prem (name them if need be) will be assessed at ??? Young riders under 21 (for example POL juniors who have raced in the main against similar or with some exposure to rides against seniors) but have never ridden in Prem will be assessed at ??? If you set a rule that only one rider over 8 then surely you have to set the ground rules on how other riders outside of those who rode in Prem in 2017 will be assessed. Otherwise how can a club look to sign other riders or exciting young overseas talent for 2018 or at least consider them in team planning awaiting outcome of if that rider wants to sign or not. Why cant the paying fan who pays for part of the sport be kept informed of this. We all want to do fantasy build the team and sure doesn't help when you don't have a clue how many of the riders who may come here would be assessed points wise. Personally I quite like the 1 x 8 or over point idea proposed as team managers/promoters now have to be clued up to build a well balanced team. But, it would be so much simpler and I think more widely accepted if it was circulated how riders coming in would be assessed for 2018. You can still build strong teams with current/ex and future SGP riders if we all knew what points they are getting as a GSA or what they will be assessed as if new riders etc as referred to above. If your not going to use a rider why should you demand a loan fee ? How about. Because he is your asset and getting a loan fee partly offsets the cost of another rider you may want to sign for the current season. There could be various reasons why you may not want that rider. Maybe a NKI isn't what you want as you would prefer a nearer 8 rider like Brady to help keep that extra 1 point plus for a more in depth look to the team. Getting a loan fee for say NKI (who may not want to ride for Poole anyway being based over Norfolk way) could help subsidise a move for another possibly exciting rider coming in at below 8 like a Milik/both Pawlicki's/Madsen (the list is long if you look around the GSA's over the last 4/5 years). Notwithstanding other young foreign talent who have not ridden UK before. Similar with other Matt Ford assets where he can get a loan fee to pay towards other riders he is interested in if that asset doesn't formulate part of his team planning for 2018. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Showed Brady Kurtz the quickest way round Wimborne Road last time Wolves were there though. 15 from 5 completed rides isnt that bad James Shanes also showed Thorssell the quickest way round Wimborne Road. So your point is what exactly. Poole bashing again? Not from what I understand no, a new rider to Somerset. Chris Holder isn't it. If it is then I really cant see us being competitive next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 James Shanes also showed Thorssell the quickest way round Wimborne Road. So your point is what exactly. Poole bashing again? Chris Holder isn't it. If it is then I really cant see us being competitive next season. are you now a somerset fan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 are you now a somerset fan ? Grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Grow up.go away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I dont think there would be many Rebels fans wanting Morris - we need a No 1 not a 2nd/3rd heat leader Eh? Is this the same Nick Morris who finished last season with a higher average than Thorssell, Cook, Bjerre, Andersen, Harris, Fricke, Kurtz, Batchelor or Holder that you're talking about? Only riders higher were Lindgren and Doyle. What part of a No 1 don't you understand? On a different note, what a marvellous accolade for the Somerset promotion to have the club handed the first-ever "Community Club" award by the SWRA trustees. Fully deserved, and ahead of the expectations of clubs such as Glasgow and the Isle of Wight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 go away Hahaha now you do sound childish. Anyway I'm going to leave it there as I cant be bothered to argue with a 6yr old kid on a internet forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Hahaha now you do sound childish. Anyway I'm going to leave it there as I cant be bothered to argue with a 6yr old kid on a internet forum.hooray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I do hope that Somerset can now sign a genuine no 1 for 2018. Good luck next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 People questioning about Morris but he had a really good season for Swindon last season and achieved a high average. I think a lot of Rebel fans would love him back, finished 3rd in the averages last season behind Doyle and Lindgren. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I would say unlikely as Somerset have signed a rider who sits around the mid 7's already meaning unlikely all would fit. From what I believe they haven't signed anyone yet. Probably talking to some riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 People questioning about Morris but he had a really good season for Swindon last season and achieved a high average. I think a lot of Rebel fans would love him back, finished 3rd in the averages last season behind Doyle and Lindgren. If he was on loan for a season,it wouldn't help his chances of a Swindon team place in 2019 if he didn't drop nearly a point of his average.He might do that anyway if the was a number one..Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) If your not going to use a rider why should you demand a loan fee ? Because thats how it works. He goes out on loan so you get a fee. Its called business. Edited November 21, 2017 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelDan Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Eh? Is this the same Nick Morris who finished last season with a higher average than Thorssell, Cook, Bjerre, Andersen, Harris, Fricke, Kurtz, Batchelor or Holder that you're talking about? Only riders higher were Lindgren and Doyle. What part of a No 1 don't you understand? On a different note, what a marvellous accolade for the Somerset promotion to have the club handed the first-ever "Community Club" award by the SWRA trustees. Fully deserved, and ahead of the expectations of clubs such as Glasgow and the Isle of Wight. He's not an out and out No 1 in my opinion - he rode without the pressure of a No 1 on his back with Doyle in the same team at Swindon LY. He's had one good season and been inconsistent (in No 1 terms) last season apart. Just my opinion - your entitled to yours. Id rather have Josh G than Morris plus Morris has openly stated hes struggled around the OTA in the past despite riding a full season there in 2014. Edited November 21, 2017 by Rebel Dan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) People questioning about Morris but he had a really good season for Swindon last season and achieved a high average. I think a lot of Rebel fans would love him back, finished 3rd in the averages last season behind Doyle and Lindgren.Not for me. One of those riders who does stupid or seems to go missing when you need him most. Great entertainment value usually though. Edited November 21, 2017 by Najjer 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Not for me. One of those riders who does stupid or seems to go missing when you need him most. Like in heat 13 of the play-off final, you mean? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 If you did go down the Morris route you could go; Morris Allen Lawson Josh G Charles Wright Mark Riss 2.35 left Allen or Riss at reserve all year would be a strong tail especially at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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