TheRealFiend Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 He wasn't given the opportunity in heat 12 or 14, he should have been in one of them, Greaves rode well but Riss is a better rider and given the meeting situation was worth the risk to be in one of those heats unless he was injured. Because he couldn't turn the bike. Pete Adams knew it. Just the BSF brigade ganging up on Harris again. Yes Harris was poor I'm not saying he wasn't but it's not fair to put the blame all on his shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Because he couldn't turn the bike. Pete Adams knew it. Just the BSF brigade ganging up on Harris again. Yes Harris was poor I'm not saying he wasn't but it's not fair to put the blame all on his shoulders. I love Bomber but he was cack and in truth the blame lies with him.. That's life move on - nothing to see here!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 There were a few things that went wrong for Wolves, probably the most important was Howarth in heat 8 seemingly having bike issues and Harris was appalling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 With a complete Aces team and Wolves using a guest and R/R, there is only 1 conclusion that I can come to, and it doesn't have to spelled out ! You lost out to the best team in the league by 1 point over 2 legs with R/R and a guest.In the koc you will have the choice of a better guest so why the big downer.As a Belle vue fan I think the Wolves team has plenty of grit and determination and with a good guest imo it is far from over.Your home track knowledge should still give you a lead from the 1st leg.Your away win at Swindon shows that you can still win away with R/R and a guest so I am not counting my chickens yet.Its the only chance of winning a trophy this season and I think both teams will be fired up to win it. I think that it will still be a close great tie and am very much looking forward to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 You lost out to the best team in the league by 1 point over 2 legs with R/R and a guest.In the koc you will have the choice of a better guest so why the big downer.As a Belle vue fan I think the Wolves team has plenty of grit and determination and with a good guest imo it is far from over.Your home track knowledge should still give you a lead from the 1st leg.Your away win at Swindon shows that you can still win away with R/R and a guest so I am not counting my chickens yet.Its the only chance of winning a trophy this season and I think both teams will be fired up to win it.I think that it will still be a close great tie and am very much looking forward to it. Not really sure who is going to be a 'better' guest tho. At Monmore it's game over anyway as we simply cannot cover the absence of 2 Monmore specialists. I can't see either leg being close, still I was wrong about the PO final so anything is possible. Just don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southampton Pirate Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Well Done!!!! to both Wolves and Swindon, on producing an exciting and highly debatable Final and ultimately Swindon as the deserved League Winners. Despite all the garbage, childish rivalry and negativity on this site, it was a great advert for the sport, with BT Sport and most importantly,Speedway becoming the ultimate winners. Can I just remind some of you that our own Poole Forum was "closed down", due in part, to the above behaviour of the few, some of whom frequent this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 If some fans think any rider sits in the pits and plots to put other riders in hospital then that shows utter stupidity, accidents have always happened and always will in speedway, in the heat of the moment things can get heated but no rider wants to see another in hospital or would purposely put another rider there, Tungate lost control and Freddie left Bjerre with nowhere to go simple really. As for the KO cup well its a bit like the League cup in football its meaningless until the finalists step out at Wembley then we see suddenly full teams appearing, bit like the regular season in speedway really, forget the previous 7 months it all comes down to 4 matches, no wonder regular matches are in front of woeful crowds many people only turn up for the meaningful play offs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 bellevueace, on 06 Oct 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:If some fans think any rider sits in the pits and plots to put other riders in hospital then that shows utter stupidity, accidents have always happened and always will in speedway, in the heat of the moment things can get heated but no rider wants to see another in hospital or would purposely put another rider there, time to open the window, do you not think some riders that have been nailed by another rider seek revenge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) Because he couldn't turn the bike. Pete Adams knew it. Just the BSF brigade ganging up on Harris again. Yes Harris was poor I'm not saying he wasn't but it's not fair to put the blame all on his shoulders. Yet youre happy to put all the blame on Riss shoulders Edited October 6, 2017 by Mr Blobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Not really sure who is going to be a 'better' guest tho. At Monmore it's game over anyway as we simply cannot cover the absence of 2 Monmore specialists. I can't see either leg being close, still I was wrong about the PO final so anything is possible. Just don't see it. Unfortunately it seems you chose the wrong guest on Wednesday, probably in hindsight Nicholls may have been better, by using Nicholls tonight I am assuming he will be the guest of choice for the cup, I remember Nicholls guesting for Poole at Monmore and he was excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Unfortunately it seems you chose the wrong guest on Wednesday, probably in hindsight Nicholls may have been better, by using Nicholls tonight I am assuming he will be the guest of choice for the cup, I remember Nicholls guesting for Poole at Monmore and he was excellent. Nicholls has been decidedly average at the Green this year. We just have to avoid scoring less than 28 points tonight. We should be able to do that. However another final appearance is going to expose us at home badly and no guest (unless it's Doyle) could cover it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Nicholls has been decidedly average at the Green this year. We just have to avoid scoring less than 28 points tonight. We should be able to do that. However another final appearance is going to expose us at home badly and no guest (unless it's Doyle) could cover it. I agree. Best shout would be Nick Morris surely? Still think we will inevitably lose fairly comfortably over 2 legs to Belle Vue with our banged up side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealFiend Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Yet youre happy to put all the blame on Riss shoulders Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 I agree. Best shout would be Nick Morris surely? Still think we will inevitably lose fairly comfortably over 2 legs to Belle Vue with our banged up side. Morris indeed would be probably the best shout. Either way we won't win at home. The guest will ensure by how much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 I must admit to hating the blame game, Wolves did remarkably well considering Freddies and Jacobs absence, twas an incredibly close final, hard luck Wolverhampton, but congratulations to the Robins 👏👍 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 I must admit to hating the blame game, Wolves did remarkably well considering Freddies and Jacobs absence, twas an incredibly close final, hard luck Wolverhampton, but congratulations to the Robins This ^^. Is all you can say, adding that Swndon did well but not great as they beat a severely weekend Wolves team by 1 point on agg, if Swindon were missing Doyle & Morris, reckon they would have got a pasting. Though If Doyle & Morris AND Lindgren & Thorsell were all missing, the Premier play offs would have been Premier / Championship Select V Premier / Championship Select. Blooming close finish to the league though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 This ^^. Is all you can say, adding that Swndon did well but not great as they beat a severely weekend Wolves team by 1 point on agg, if Swindon were missing Doyle & Morris, reckon they would have got a pasting. Though If Doyle & Morris AND Lindgren & Thorsell were all missing, the Premier play offs would have been Premier / Championship Select V Premier / Championship Select. Blooming close finish to the league though.... Injuries are part and parcel of the game given that riders ride in 3 or 4 different countries and possibly GP commitments too. The timing of Freddies and Jacobs injuries, are from a Wolves perspective, unfortunate. However, Swindon suffered several injuries through the course of the season, one of which was season ending, and because of the margin of victory that may have tipped the balance Wolves way. Life is full of its, buts and maybes. Would Doyle been World Champion if he hadnt crashed in Torun last year? Would Arsenal have won the FA Cup had the referee spotted a Harlem Globetrotter was on the pitch? If England could take penalties would they have won a major tournament? If...if...if 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 I suspect the answer to the final question you posed would still be no... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Injuries are part and parcel of the game given that riders ride in 3 or 4 different countries and possibly GP commitments too. The timing of Freddies and Jacobs injuries, are from a Wolves perspective, unfortunate. However, Swindon suffered several injuries through the course of the season, one of which was season ending, and because of the margin of victory that may have tipped the balance Wolves way. Life is full of its, buts and maybes. Would Doyle been World Champion if he hadnt crashed in Torun last year? Would Arsenal have won the FA Cup had the referee spotted a Harlem Globetrotter was on the pitch? If England could take penalties would they have won a major tournament? If...if...if Life is full of its, buts and maybes: absolutely and wouldn't it be boring if it were so predictable? Speaking as a neutral though, still think I'm right 'bout Wolves & Swindon. But Swindon scored more points in the play offs and topped the regular league so there's that. Doyle - probably, the rest - dunno don't follow ball game sports. Maybe Harlem Globetrotter refs shoud be randomly introduced to all sports, . Came up in conversation last nite: is the sport running out of riders a bit, seems like it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 This ^^. Is all you can say, adding that Swndon did well but not great as they beat a severely weekend Wolves team by 1 point on agg, if Swindon were missing Doyle & Morris, reckon they would have got a pasting. Though If Doyle & Morris AND Lindgren & Thorsell were all missing, the Premier play offs would have been Premier / Championship Select V Premier / Championship Select. Blooming close finish to the league though.... As mentioned before, when Swindon faced Wolves without Doyle and Morris, they beat them. The very same 'never say die' attitude shown by Wolves in the first leg of the final came to the fore for Swindon that night. It's not so straight forward. Everyone predicted that Wolves riding at Swindon without Lindgren and Thorssell, would get a pasting. They never. Swindon were a side that refused to be beaten for a long stretch of the season. They seemed to lose that once nobody could finish above them in the table. In the second leg, they summoned that same spirit back up. Both meetings seemed to show the fighting spirit of the apparent underdog. It was a great final. Great to see mutual respect from the two teams' supporters too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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