Flappy Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 So panthers have no plan and are waiting for a rule change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluTiger Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Flappy said: So panthers have no plan and are waiting for a rule change 'According to Carl Johnson they are waiting for a proposed vote change , he also mentions we have plan A and a plan B' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, blupanther said: 'According to Carl Johnson they are waiting for a proposed vote change , he also mentions we have plan A and a plan B' What was the point of the pre agm agreements and then ratification at the agm if there is going to be a vote to change things now..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluTiger Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: What was the point of the pre agm agreements and then ratification at the agm if there is going to be a vote to change things now..... Very good question. Maybe they realize that the 6pt ruling is both absurd and unfair on loyal British riders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 So we had the Hokey Cokey cup, now we have a Hokey Cokey team, shambles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 So why didn't we have our team sorted 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, Panthers89 said: So we had the Hokey Cokey cup, now we have a Hokey Cokey team, shambles. shambles ain't the word looks like a long long season ahead ,said it the other year when they cocked up , sign a decent no1 and a decent reserve before anything else 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, blupanther said: Very good question. Maybe they realize that the 6pt ruling is both absurd and unfair on loyal British riders... Agree - just disappointing (if not surprising) that it wasnt all in order before team building was officially started for any team let alone completed by some. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Agree - just disappointing (if not surprising) that it wasnt all in order before team building was officially started for any team let alone completed by some. Agreed, until they announce rules in 2-3 season stints, we will always have this, same old questions every pre-season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 20 minutes ago, Panthers89 said: Agreed, until they announce rules in 2-3 season stints, we will always have this, same old questions every pre-season Especially when at least a third of the Championship didn’t go to the AGM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 If they change the rules the panthers could end up with a good team by default.. The only problem with changing the rules now is maybe a few of the teams that have now been put together will be weaker possibly by default. What I really want to know though..is why are the rules in speedway so crazy every year....its about time they got shot of the current rule makers and the last lot of rule makers...and give the job so someone or some people that may actually be able to do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Panthers haven't got the bottle to change the team to a good one even if the rules change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Do you not think so flappy?? other teams may offer a better deal anyway...but I'm guessing the panthers would have a better advantage getting a couple of good riders due to your location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 40 minutes ago, hans fan said: shambles ain't the word looks like a long long season ahead ,said it the other year when they cocked up , sign a decent no1 and a decent reserve before anything else Surely the management must realise this is not good for business generally with the bottom end signings already made and maybe having to wait 5/6 weeks before they complete the team, not good for prospective new season ticket holders or indeed those renewing there's. I can't see it being a record breaking season ticket sales what ever spin they put on it . Just wish management would not just listen to fans but take notice as well. Every year we seem to build from the bottom and every year we have to make changes because they keep getting it wrong. In future why don't we try building from the top first .I just can't get any enthusiasm about the riders signed so far and I don't think I am alone , very disappointed in the lack of imagination shown by management. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Baldyman said: If they change the rules the panthers could end up with a good team by default.. The only problem with changing the rules now is maybe a few of the teams that have now been put together will be weaker possibly by default. What I really want to know though..is why are the rules in speedway so crazy every year....its about time they got shot of the current rule makers and the last lot of rule makers...and give the job so someone or some people that may actually be able to do the job. Surely the answer is to have rules and them stick to them for several years. Constant tinkering and change has cock up and self interest written all over it. Same old crap about a positive meeting to take speedway forward before the realisation of the detail sinks in and the arguments start for the next few months. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 36 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: Especially when at least a third of the Championship didn’t go to the AGM id say some promoters dont have the time to travel abroad for a meeting that is dictated by promoters who hold high positions in the sport this is british speedway the meeting should be held in britten and it should involve all who want to take part the following season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Surely the answer is to have rules and them stick to them for several years. Constant tinkering and change has cock up and self interest written all over it. Same old crap about a positive meeting to take speedway forward before the realisation of the detail sinks in and the arguments start for the next few months. I've said it before...rules should have a minimum of say a 5 season cycle....that way everyone knows where they stand....clubs, riders., fans. A ten year cycle would be even better...clubs may then invest in young riders more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 It shouldn’t even happen that often, once every 3 years, have a business plan almost and work to that. Instead of just confusing the hell out of everyone every year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 59 minutes ago, Crump99 said: Surely the answer is to have rules and them stick to them for several years. Constant tinkering and change has cock up and self interest written all over it. Same old crap about a positive meeting to take speedway forward before the realisation of the detail sinks in and the arguments start for the next few months. Surely the answer is to not let make the rules at all, they just are not trustworthy and competent to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Baldyman said: Do you not think so flappy?? other teams may offer a better deal anyway...but I'm guessing the panthers would have a better advantage getting a couple of good riders due to your location. Sadly not it appears we've gone back to signing friends of the club again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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