BenR195 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Why would Jacks priorities be at Peterborough when he has Poole and Torun? Earns more money at his other clubs, Peterborough is just an easy extra pay check for him, I dont blame him for wanting to ride in Torun to be honest its gonna better his career riding with the big boys, whos he riding with at Peterborough? Ulrich and Harris 😂🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Why would Jacks priorities be at Peterborough when he has Poole and Torun? Earns more money at his other clubs, Peterborough is just an easy extra pay check for him, I dont blame him for wanting to ride in Torun to be honest its gonna better his career riding with the big boys, whos he riding with at Peterborough? Ulrich and Harris If he had any decency about him he would have honoured the contract he signed before the Poles came a knocking. That's why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ren Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Why would Jacks priorities be at Peterborough when he has Poole and Torun? Earns more money at his other clubs, Peterborough is just an easy extra pay check for him, I dont blame him for wanting to ride in Torun to be honest its gonna better his career riding with the big boys, whos he riding with at Peterborough? Ulrich and Harris 😂🙈 Without the help of British speedway Holder wouldn't get the chance to ride in Poland full stop. Â Also where would Holder be without British speedway? Oh yeah still riding in Australia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Why would Jacks priorities be at Peterborough when he has Poole and Torun? Earns more money at his other clubs, Peterborough is just an easy extra pay check for him, I dont blame him for wanting to ride in Torun to be honest its gonna better his career riding with the big boys, whos he riding with at Peterborough? Ulrich and Harris I think it's fair to say that your post shows that you have no perception of the real issue here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 If he had any decency about him he would have honoured the contract he signed before the Poles came a knocking. That's why. i don't blame holder 1 bit , you have to blame our promoter if he had the balls to stand up to him holder would have been banned the happy clappers just don't get it , panthers are in this mess because the promoter has been taking the p155 out of members of the bspa and paying public on numerous occasions if ged had done the right thing for the club and not holder (or the alledged hush £££ ) panthers would have been just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 JCF does grate on the nerves somewhat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 I think it's fair to say that your post shows that you have no perception of the real issue here. The real issue is Ged not Jack, Ged allegedly took a backhander off Torun and let him miss big meetings for you, if Ged didnt let him, jack would of had to ride for Peterborough or been banned, jack done what he was told to do, I agree the punishment is excessive and the people in charge are just pushing their weight about but jack is not to blame for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Lets be honest: Â Ged/Jack and the BSPA are all at fault, but you can see why they all done what they did. Â Jack took the money and experiance, and a ticket for Poland next season Ged took the money from Torun BSPA throw their weight around and act as the big i am. Â From a fans point of view, Jack has let the club down, by choosing a team who didnt want to use him earlier in the season, Ged as let the fans down by lining his pockets, but he may have had too to keep the club running, but losing Holder has lost the edge massively recently. BSPA are a joke, plenty other things going on, but nothing done. Shouldnt have allowed it in the first place, we wouldnt be in this situation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Ged knew what he was doing by letting Holder ride elsewhere and took a hefty sweetener to do so. He lined his pockets and had scant regard for his fellow promoters or fans of opposing teams when the Panthers came to visit. He did it for himself and thought nothing would be done... unlucky! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Ged knew what he was doing by letting Holder ride elsewhere and took a hefty sweetener to do so. He lined his pockets and had scant regard for his fellow promoters or fans of opposing teams when the Panthers came to visit. He did it for himself and thought nothing would be done... unlucky! Â Hard to disagree tbh! But I wouldn't want to lose ANY club over something like this, which could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Ged knew what he was doing by letting Holder ride elsewhere and took a hefty sweetener to do so. He lined his pockets and had scant regard for his fellow promoters or fans of opposing teams when the Panthers came to visit. He did it for himself and thought nothing would be done... unlucky! Do you know this for a fact? How much was it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Although he was wrong to take the stance he did I do actually have some sympathy for Ged. Â He said the deal struck suited all parties involved yet he seems to be the only one of the 4 to be hit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 A few days ago the talk was of a return to proper Speedway now it whether there will be any at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Lets be honest: Â Ged/Jack and the BSPA are all at fault, but you can see why they all done what they did. Â Jack took the money and experiance, and a ticket for Poland next season Ged took the money from Torun BSPA throw their weight around and act as the big i am. Â From a fans point of view, Jack has let the club down, by choosing a team who didnt want to use him earlier in the season, Ged as let the fans down by lining his pockets, but he may have had too to keep the club running, but losing Holder has lost the edge massively recently. BSPA are a joke, plenty other things going on, but nothing done. Shouldnt have allowed it in the first place, we wouldnt be in this situation. Â You're 2/3rds right, but for once, the BSPA/SCB have done the right thing. How could they have stopped it in the first place, other than using Spanish police tactics at Stansted Airport? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Â You're 2/3rds right, but for once, the BSPA/SCB have done the right thing. How could they have stopped it in the first place, other than using Spanish police tactics at Stansted Airport? Suspend Holder for the rest of the season instead of taking the piss out of the promoters we have faced without Holder. Then it wouldn't seem like we had a facility etc. That's what I mean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Suspend Holder for the rest of the season instead of taking the piss out of the promoters we have faced without Holder. Then it wouldn't seem like we had a facility etc. That's what I mean. Â Â Suspend Holder for Rathbone's flouting of the rules? The MC correctly refused to sanction the request but Rathbone went ahead anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Although he was wrong to take the stance he did I do actually have some sympathy for Ged.  He said the deal struck suited all parties involved yet he seems to be the only one of the 4 to be hit. And what about the fans? How exactly have we benefited in this sorry saga? We've been expected to turn up and watch when our number 1 has decided he'd rather be elsewhere & now face the very real risk of losing our club. Holder has secured his Torun team place, Ged has the money - and what have we got? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coomie Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Hope all works out ok with the panthers,enjoyed my trips there,all the best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Although he was wrong to take the stance he did I do actually have some sympathy for Ged. Â He said the deal struck suited all parties involved yet he seems to be the only one of the 4 to be hit. Â 4 what? Â "Ourselves, Torun and Jack have come to an agreement that suits us all." - that's 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Â Â Suspend Holder for Rathbone's flouting of the rules? The MC correctly refused to sanction the request but Rathbone went ahead anyway. Â I'm not convinced that it was quite that simple. Of course we'll never know because the detail is rarely forthcoming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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