New era Panthers Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 The first meeting is just usually practice of men, machines and organisation on a cold March day before the proper stuff in a week or two. I wouldn't want too many basing their judgement on that So what would you do under the circumstances which would be an improvement on this idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) So what would you do under the circumstances which would be an improvement on this idea. First meeting of the season is usually one of the best attended, if not the best attended meeting of the season anyway. It usually sells itself after the winter and build up but will have to be free for all. The BSPA (SCB) will be watching and will no doubt take great pleasure in putting the boot in if there is any suspicion of trying to make a buck, so people can forget that. It is what it is. Plenty of sponsorship opportunities would help greatly with costs if the BSPA/SCB hasn't banned them in the written verdict they've yet to disclose to the paying public. Edited October 16, 2017 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 First meeting of the season is usually one of the best attended, if not the best attended meeting of the season anyway. It usually sells itself after the winter and build up but will have to be free for all. The BSPA (SCB) will be watching and will no doubt take great pleasure in putting the boot in if there is any suspicion of trying to make a buck, so people can forget that. It is what it is. Plenty of sponsorship opportunities would help greatly with costs if the BSPA/SCB hasn't banned them in the written verdict they've yet to disclose to the paying public. The punishment is stated as the first home LEAGUE match of 2018, so not necessarily the first track action of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Some just do not seem to get this. A free meeting will only benefit Panthers supporters unless the BSPA are planning to bus in hoards from far and wide to make their point. Those Panthers fans who may have felt aggrieved over what has happened did not lose any money just voted with their feet and did not go post Holder. I am absolutely sure that if the insistence of a free meeting meant Panthers not running next year the vast majority would prefer Panthers to run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Some just do not seem to get this. A free meeting will only benefit Panthers supporters unless the BSPA are planning to bus in hoards from far and wide to make their point. Those Panthers fans who may have felt aggrieved over what has happened did not lose any money just voted with their feet and did not go post Holder. I am absolutely sure that if the insistence of a free meeting meant Panthers not running next year the vast majority would prefer Panthers to run. The problem is the first meeting can set you up for months bearing in mind the opening crowd for our match against Coventry this year, putting clubs in serious financial differculties at the start benefits no one especially if the club then subsequently goes under. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) I think this whole thing is an absolute farce..as are the BSPA..who could end up closing down a club because of one rider. The punishment they have dished out is the equivalent of throwing a fag but on the floor and getting put in jail. And I'm getting p##### off that every single season I have to hear threats that our club may not be no more..stability would be nice. It's not just us though is it..British speedway is in dissarray and the changes over the winter have made no difference. Buster Chapman has embarrassed himself this year and if he doesn't get sacked should step down..as should his sidekick Godfrey by the sounds of it. Edited October 17, 2017 by Lukas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Vengeance is mine sayeth the BSPA/SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Ged only had to say no a few months aback and you wouldn't be in this situation. Only one person is to blame, wake up and smell the coffee 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Ged only had to say no a few months aback and you wouldn't be in this situation. Only one person is to blame, wake up and smell the coffee Well the story went that he did say no but then sought advice (probably explaining how such money could be used productively for Peterborough Speedway), which isn't unreasonable is it, unless you're asking a wrong un of course! The advice allegedly (which we assume is the bad advice mentioned in the mysterious written verdict) was to take the money and small fine that might come his way. Yes Rathbone should have stuck at no but clearly was also badly advised locally of how dangerous paddling in the shark infested custard is. Those who can't see that need more than coffee to bring them to their senses. Edited October 17, 2017 by Crump99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Should have said no and stuck to it. Wouldn't have had any issues over next season, having said that, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Is ged a business man?? Would he run his business like that? If there is a next time, I'm sure he will say no and stick to it. Edited October 17, 2017 by baldyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Should have said no and stuck to it. Wouldn't have had any issues over next season, having said that, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Is ged a business man?? Would he run his business like that? If there is a next time, I'm sure he will say no and stick to it. Run a business like what? If you can do something that benefits your business, you take advice and it's agreed that it'll work out fine then yes I'm sure that he would depending on the situation. These are BSPA rules we're talking about, the most flexible rules in motorsport today. They only stick to them when they want to get someone, and Rathbone was the unfortunate (or not, depending on your allegiance) victim on this occasion. Edited October 17, 2017 by Crump99 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Isn't this similar to last year when looking to sign Craig Cook he sought advice and was told that it would not be sanctioned due to clash of race nights, but went ahead anyway and then moaned about not being allowed? Seems he will still do his own thing regardless of advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Isn't this similar to last year when looking to sign Craig Cook he sought advice and was told that it would not be sanctioned due to clash of race nights, but went ahead anyway and then moaned about not being allowed? Seems he will still do his own thing regardless of advice! Well clearly at some point it was sanctioned, otherwise we wouldn’t have been allowed to use him, it’s the constant jumping through hoops that’s starting to grate, same with Harris this year but of course everyone then had no problem using him as a guest. You don’t know the half of it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) I think this whole thing is an absolute farce..as are the BSPA..who could end up closing down a club because of one rider. The punishment they have dished out is the equivalent of throwing a fag but on the floor and getting put in jail. And I'm getting p##### off that every single season I have to hear threats that our club may not be no more..stability would be nice. It's not just us though is it..British speedway is in dissarray and the changes over the winter have made no difference. Buster Chapman has embarrassed himself this year and if he doesn't get sacked should step down..as should his sidekick Godfrey by the sounds of it. ? Boro are at fault are in my book has got off very lightly ...if the club closes down then will be one man's fault and it's not chapman's ..who it there right mind can think ok to take bungs to allowed your own riders to miss matches and be replaced by a junior . This is the trouble with speedway fans ..they moan and groan about riders and teams taking the mickey and want firm action but the moment someone tries to do that they are up in arms about it . Edited October 17, 2017 by orion 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) What a load of rubbish..got off lightly?..it's Boro's fault?..had to use Juniors? Edited October 17, 2017 by Lukas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) ? Boro are at fault are in my book has got off very lightly ...if the club closes down then will be one man's fault and it's not chapman's ..who it there right mind can think ok to take bungs to allowed your own riders to miss matches and be replaced by a junior . This is the trouble with speedway fans ..they moan and groan about riders and teams taking the mickey and want firm action but moment someone ttries to do that they are up in arms about it . Don't think that many realists have a problem with punishment if it's justified. Without knowing the real facts of the matter it comes down to party lines who you believe and side with. As for weakened teams, with everyone innocent until proven guilty and the trial long after the then alleged offences and matches, why does the system allow the punters to be short changed by not allowing a like for like guest. Edited October 17, 2017 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 What a load of rubbish..got off lightly?..it's Boro's fault?..had to use Juniors? So you think that in uk speedway should able to take bungs to allowed riders to miss matches and be replaced by nl riders etc ....you take money for that sort thing in any sport and likely to get a life ban ...so yes it is boro's fault and yes he got off lightly ..take your Boro blinkers off and wake up . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Don't think that many realists have a problem with punishment if it's justified. Without knowing the real facts of the matter it comes down to party lines who you believe and side with. As for weakened teams, with everyone innocent until proven guilty and the trial long after the then alleged offences and matches, why does the system allow the punters to be short changed by not allowing a like for like guest. As Trevor Swales is about to step down as a promoter, who will Panthers have to represent them at the BSPA conference as Ged is not in a position to will this mean we will have no representation . So you think that in uk speedway should able to take bungs to allowed riders to miss matches and be replaced by nl riders etc ....you take money for that sort thing in any sport and likely to get a life ban ...so yes it is boro's fault and yes he got off lightly ..take your Boro blinkers off and wake up . I don't disagree with what you are saying Ged was in the wrong, but at the end of the day it's the fans who suffer the most especially the ones that do all the unpaid work behind the scenes and supporters club members who arrange functions to raise cash and all other volunteers who put a lot of time and effort in and then find the club have been hit heavily with fines, it must make them wonder why they bother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) As Trevor Swales is about to step down as a promoter, who will Panthers have to represent them at the BSPA conference as Ged is not in a position to will this mean we will have no representation . My vote goes to Bratley. We wouldn't be in this mess if they'd had him onside even though orion thinks that Bratley can't run a bath Edited October 17, 2017 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 My vote goes to Bratley. We wouldn't be in this mess if they'd had him onside even though orion thinks that Bratley can't run a bath Yea Boro lost was Birmingham gain what a job he done there . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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