stevebrum Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: If his 2017 Div 2 average is 3.33 then I think it would be fair to give him the converted Div 1 equivalent of 2.56. If he has an established top flight average then it's only fair they use that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Using an assessment dating back to 2016 doesn't feel right. How the authorities (using that term loosely) work out these averages is complete nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 38 minutes ago, The Observer said: Using an assessment dating back to 2016 doesn't feel right. How the authorities (using that term loosely) work out these averages is complete nonsense. It's all nonsense. They are regrading riders like Tai to a 9 (or 8 it now appears), allowing some who have improved massively since 2016 to come back on an old average (Woryna), and then giving Clegg a 2 point average from his 4 meetings for Wolves which normally wouldn't qualify you for a new average. Depends who is asking as to who gets an average to suit. The governing body haven't made one fair assessment yet on averages for 2018. So some will get an advantage next year and some will be denied. All thanks to the pathetic efforts of our governing body to muck up the averages yet again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) If Sarjeant starts on his 2016 figure of 3.81 it is terrible signing, he only averaged 3.33 in 2017 with Ipswich & Workington in the Championship. It (4.65) wouldn't even leave enough for Eric Riss (5.75) to complete the team. Terrible team compared to that which was mooted on here a few weeks ago. I am assuming that Vaculik is assessed as starting on 9:00 & Pieszczek on 7.00. Edited December 23, 2017 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Most recent SGB average is 3.33 in CL which converts to, what, 2.++ for PL? Rumour about him signing for Lions began a few weeks ago, so perhaps the club were trying to get his GSA verified before confirming him? Based on his form in 2017 I doubt if the club would have him at 3.81 whereas 2.++ could mean Kim Nilsson or similar as the final appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Interesting, that according to the Leicester Mercury website , Sargeant as been signed on a full transfer & will become an asset subject to approval. It also states they are trying to avoid paying costly loan fees, with Josh Bates registration being owned by the club it only leaves loan fees being paid for Newman & King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bump Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 48 minutes ago, Big Al said: Most recent SGB average is 3.33 in CL which converts to, what, 2.++ for PL? Rumour about him signing for Lions began a few weeks ago, so perhaps the club were trying to get his GSA verified before confirming him? Based on his form in 2017 I doubt if the club would have him at 3.81 whereas 2.++ could mean Kim Nilsson or similar as the final appointment. Certainly hope you’re right about all this, otherwise as signings go this is a bit of an odd one! Suppose though the future of Josh Bates could have a significant bearing on all of this too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, stevethelion said: Interesting, that according to the Leicester Mercury website , Sargeant as been signed on a full transfer & will become an asset subject to approval. It also states they are trying to avoid paying costly loan fees, with Josh Bates registration being owned by the club it only leaves loan fees being paid for Newman & King. That must of cost all of a fiver. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: If his 2017 Div 2 average is 3.33 then I think it would be fair to give him the converted Div 1 equivalent of 2.56. 2.56 would be a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Leicester have now got a complete team just awaiting to announce the last rider which will surprise a few as would not think he would want to come to the Lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 11 hours ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: If his 2017 Div 2 average is 3.33 then I think it would be fair to give him the converted Div 1 equivalent of 2.56. Which I believe if what it will be. Riders don't keep old averages when they achieve a new one in another league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: 2.56 would be a bargain. Not really. I'm sure there is a decent prospect Leicester could sign on 2.00 who would be as valuable. You only really need one good reserve. if Newman doesn't have that covered what is the point of signing him? He drives me mental watching him (only on TV), no rider needs two tapes exclusions a meeting. Edited December 24, 2017 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 20 hours ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: If his 2017 Div 2 average is 3.33 then I think it would be fair to give him the converted Div 1 equivalent of 2.56. No it would not be fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Col said: Not really. I'm sure there is a decent prospect Leicester could sign on 2.00 who would be as valuable. You only really need one good reserve. if Newman doesn't have that covered what is the point of signing him? He drives me mental watching him (only on TV), no rider needs two tapes exclusions a meeting. Newman is more than capable of beating most reserves consistently, probably won't be at reserve very long though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, foreverblue said: No it would not be fair. Because? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 9 hours ago, flagrag said: Leicester have now got a complete team just awaiting to announce the last rider which will surprise a few as would not think he would want to come to the Lions. Hmmmm, robert lambert ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 8 hours ago, SCB said: Which I believe if what it will be. Riders don't keep old averages when they achieve a new one in another league. And absolutely what it should be Its the most recent true reflection of his performances My original post was just highlighting the fact that this basic principle has been ignored by not reassessing the likes of Woryna and allowing (it appears but subject to confirmation) Morley and Zach W to use their 2nd tier 2016 figures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: Because? He has an established average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Hmmmm, robert lambert ???? Don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 11 hours ago, flagrag said: Leicester have now got a complete team just awaiting to announce the last rider which will surprise a few as would not think he would want to come to the Lions. Holder? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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