Woz01 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised to see other clubs make similar signings now we have set race days. To think some say the Premiership wouldn't be stronger in 2018. He's certainly a talent. Not a name I am familiar with. Averaged 1.544 (6.176 in our money) from 13 meetings in the Ekstraliga last year. Which is more than Kildemand, Sundstrom & Thorsell. Not totally representative of course as he could well have attained that average from reserve. Swedish stats unsurprisingly not as impressive, but still not bad 1,290 (5.16) from 8 meetings for Lejonen in Elitserien. Assume he starts on 4.00? Looking at those stats I guess he would be higher than 4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) Krystian Pieszczek certainly rode well at Lynn last season in the World u21 scoring something like 19pts.Should be a good addition to our league.Leicester are certainly going about their business not to finish bottom next season. Edited November 24, 2017 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Not a name I am familiar with. Averaged 1.544 (6.176 in our money) from 13 meetings in the Ekstraliga last year. Which is more than Kildemand, Sundstrom & Thorsell. Not totally representative of course as he could well have attained that average from reserve. Swedish stats unsurprisingly not as impressive, but still not bad 1,290 (5.16) from 8 meetings for Lejonen in Elitserien. Assume he starts on 4.00? From the success he has had in the past I would be amazed if its not at least 5 and it could be 7. Just going off Pawel P. Great signings so far from the lions. Just a risk simply because neither have ever ridden in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Not a name I am familiar with. Averaged 1.544 (6.176 in our money) from 13 meetings in the Ekstraliga last year. Which is more than Kildemand, Sundstrom & Thorsell. Not totally representative of course as he could well have attained that average from reserve. Swedish stats unsurprisingly not as impressive, but still not bad 1,290 (5.16) from 8 meetings for Lejonen in Elitserien. Assume he starts on 4.00? He was in the 1 to 5 in the Extraleague for Grudziadz in 2017 Krystian Pieszczek certainly rode well at Lynn last season in the World u21 scoring something like 19pts.Should be a good addition to our league.Leicester are certainly going about their business not to finish bottom next season. 2016 it was - he scored 20 pts- that was his last season as a U21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 From the success he has had in the past I would be amazed if its not at least 5 and it could be 7. Just going off Pawel P. Great signings so far from the lions. Just a risk simply because neither have ever ridden in the UK. Not much of a risk in my opinion terrific signings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Pieszczek will struggle imo. Never ridden British tracks before apart from KL so it will take him time to get to grips with the British circuits. Different set up over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Very good signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Krystian Pieszczek. Great signing for Leicester. No doubt they mean business in 2018 and Krystian Pieszczek is a very good talent. Great equipment, fast gater and loads of potential. Well done to Leicester. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Krystian Pieszczek. Great signing for Leicester. No doubt they mean business in 2018 and Krystian Pieszczek is a very good talent. Great equipment, fast gater and loads of potential. Well done to Leicester. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 As of yesterday evening the SCB weren't aware of Vaculik's average - anymore than any of the other assessed riders!! The SCB have asked for the full 'independent' list of averages which they expect to receive later this week. (As advised by Gordon Pairman to me yesterday!!) Surely that should have been done , before they made that rule about '1 over 8'. Talk about shutting the door after the horse had bolted...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Surely that should have been done , before they made that rule about '1 over 8'. Talk about shutting the door after the horse had bolted...... Yep I agree. The BSPA knew about this one over 8 rule well before the AGM imo. The Tenerife meeting was probably only to confirm the already agreed draft. That being so I fully agree the powers that be should already have been well in advance on drawing up the list plus also the guidelines on what assessment would be given to overseas riders say under 21 who have never ridden in UK plus also what assessment for riders over 21 like Pieszczek who have never ridden UK. Find it a bit strange that Leicester have signed 2 riders with no assessed GSA unless they re just taking a gung ho approach with the attitude fill in lower down the team as and went we have to. Can imagine there are plenty of teams urgently awaiting what these assessed GSA's and guidelines will be for both older & younger overseas riders who may be considering UK. Also are we to assume that riders who rode here 2016 or later will be assessed as per their last GSA such as Zagar/NKI/Woryna etc. That's without considering say riders who rode here last 2015 or earlier like Pawlicki/Zmarzlik & others.What also will be the cut off year for keeping a previous GSA. Plenty of grey areas at the moment which is partly blocking promoters team building plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Yep I agree. The BSPA knew about this one over 8 rule well before the AGM imo. The Tenerife meeting was probably only to confirm the already agreed draft. That being so I fully agree the powers that be should already have been well in advance on drawing up the list plus also the guidelines on what assessment would be given to overseas riders say under 21 who have never ridden in UK plus also what assessment for riders over 21 like Pieszczek who have never ridden UK. Find it a bit strange that Leicester have signed 2 riders with no assessed GSA unless they re just taking a gung ho approach with the attitude fill in lower down the team as and went we have to. Can imagine there are plenty of teams urgently awaiting what these assessed GSA's and guidelines will be for both older & younger overseas riders who may be considering UK. Also are we to assume that riders who rode here 2016 or later will be assessed as per their last GSA such as Zagar/NKI/Woryna etc. That's without considering say riders who rode here last 2015 or earlier like Pawlicki/Zmarzlik & others.What also will be the cut off year for keeping a previous GSA. Plenty of grey areas at the moment which is partly blocking promoters team building plans. Vaculik has to be 8.00 at least. Pieszczek 7.00 at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Pieszczek will struggle imo. Never ridden British tracks before apart from KL so it will take him time to get to grips with the British circuits. Different set up over here. Vaculik has to be 8.00 at least. Pieszczek 7.00 at least. Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Eh? Pieszczek will have an assessed average of 7.00. Just like Przedpelski did and so did Lindback when we signed him for a short period. I think Pieszczek will struggle most Poles do in there debut British seasons (Musielak and Woryna) to name a couple. Its a new experience for them completely different set up over here. Visiting tracks for the first time is not going to be easy when facing riders who have had years of experience on these tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 New Pole will be a 5 I think as never rode in GP and MV will be 8.5 The next two signings are crucial as we have possible No1 and potentially good 2nd string. Need good heat leader back up and reserves will be Josh Bates. The Bates family have obviously sorted the middle order out as have told Lasse and another 2017 Lion that they don't fit into current plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 New Pole will be a 5 I think as never rode in GP and MV will be 8.5 The next two signings are crucial as we have possible No1 and potentially good 2nd string. Need good heat leader back up and reserves will be Josh Bates. The Bates family have obviously sorted the middle order out as have told Lasse and another 2017 Lion that they don't fit into current plans Think you may be wishful thinking on KP at 5 but in a way hope you are right. In effect that would mean any foreign rider under say 22/23 who have never ridden UK should also be assessed at 5. Also bearing in mind KP was a World U21 runner up in last couple of seasons. Anyway we all CONTINUE to wait on the rider GSA's who rode prior to the 2016 season (we assume that is the cut off) and all these young riders around Europe who have never ridden UK, who promoters may want to take a leap of faith on. That's on top of senior riders like Vaculik who have never ridden UK but are proven GP riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) New Pole will be a 5 I think as never rode in GP and MV will be 8.5 The next two signings are crucial as we have possible No1 and potentially good 2nd string. Need good heat leader back up and reserves will be Josh Bates. The Bates family have obviously sorted the middle order out as have told Lasse and another 2017 Lion that they don't fit into current plans 5.00 not a chance the whole league would be fuming. Polish Ekstraliga rider who rides in the 1-5. Swedish Elitserien rider. U-21 runner up. Will be assessed 7.00. Swindon wanted to sign Andersen they was told 7.00 last season. Przedpelski signed 7.00. Lindback signed for us 7.00. Not going to change. Edited November 24, 2017 by Poole Pirates Fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRacer Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Great ambition shown by Leicester and very encouraging for the league next year. Hope the other promoters show as much willingness to go out and sign good/promising riders. Now, how do you block posters who confuse their opinions with facts?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Great ambition shown by Leicester and very encouraging for the league next year. Hope the other promoters show as much willingness to go out and sign good/promising riders. Now, how do you block posters who confuse their opinions with facts?! Completely close down the forum?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 New Pole will be a 5 I think as never rode in GP and MV will be 8.5 Piotr was an assessed 7 due to having ridden to a similar standard on fleeting appearances previously and he wasn't in GP's either. Think standard has been set with the Lindback reassessment and in line with the Pawel assessment this year. Unless they are going to make up the rules to suit again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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