The Observer Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Steady coming back to Leicester as TM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Rider with an average under 8, surprised hes not wanted by his parent club, GP rider. The options are.... Woffinden Because the rest have averages too high, have never ridden here or their owned by a club that are not riding at present/any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Rider with an average under 8, surprised hes not wanted by his parent club, GP rider. The options are.... Zagar fits the description too, but he hates Leicester like a fat man hates a salad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Zagar fits the description too, but he hates Leicester like a fat man hates a salad. The BSPA own him, so no, he doesn't fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Woffinden would go to Wolverhampton due to his connection with Peter Adams also Wolves would snap him up if he wants British racing. Tai would never turn down a contract at Wolverhampton. So forget it. Nilsson will be the 2nd HL for Leicester imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdsalBoy Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Doesn't Woffinden also have connections with Neil Machin ? Could very well happen this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Decision time for the Lions promotion now they know the rules from the conference and have MV starting average confirmed . Do they push forward with top 2 they originally wanted or do they go for a more balanced side with strong reserves ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) Doesn't Woffinden also have connections with Neil Machin ? Could very well happen this move. Doesn't matter. Nothing breaks the Woffy/Adams connection. Decision time for the Lions promotion now they know the rules from the conference and have MV starting average confirmed . Do they push forward with top 2 they originally wanted or do they go for a more balanced side with strong reserves ? Personally I don't think there is another GP rider never did due to the points limit. Think someone told you a porky pie. Has to be a rider under 8 and you said its a GP rider. Only 4 riders under 8 in the GP's are Woffinden - Never going to happen. Wolves or no British club. Wolves wouldn't even let Leicester speak with Woffinden. Woffinden wouldn't be interested in a move to Leicester over a move to his beloved Wolverhampton. Zagar - hates the track and will do anything to get out of meetings around Leicester. C. Holder - Doesn't like the track either. Shamek - who wasn't interested in British racing before qualifying for the GP's therefore I defo cant see him being interested now. Edited November 20, 2017 by Poole Pirates Fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Contrast the attitudes of Holder and Zagar as described above (and I think they're true) with Martin Vaculik who has stated he wants to tackle a difficult track as part of his quest to become a better rider. These 3 are in pretty close proximity in the current GP pecking order. Let's see which one comes out on top in 2018. Maybe he's realised how much his 2 years at Leicester helped to move Mr Jason "British tracks are crap" Doyle on in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Doesn't Woffinden also have connections with Neil Machin ? Could very well happen this move. Isn't Neil Machin his God father? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Isn't Neil Machin his God father? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Decision time for the Lions promotion now they know the rules from the conference and have MV starting average confirmed . Do they push forward with top 2 they originally wanted or do they go for a more balanced side with strong reserves ? What is the confirmed average for MV ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRacer Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Riders will take the best contracts. 'Loving' a club doesn't extend beyond the right pay check. Ownership of assets is nonsense. The sooner a high profile rider pushes back, the sooner the whole house of cards collapses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) What is the confirmed average for MV ? As of yesterday evening the SCB weren't aware of Vaculik's average - anymore than any of the other assessed riders!! The SCB have asked for the full 'independent' list of averages which they expect to receive later this week. (As advised by Gordon Pairman to me yesterday!!) Edited November 21, 2017 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 lasse bjerre #⃣ 1⃣ 5⃣ @LasseBjerre93 FollowFollow @LasseBjerre93 More Looking for a Championship and a Premiership club in UK #2018 #LB please RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Rider with an average under 8, surprised hes not wanted by his parent club, GP rider. The options are.... Woffinden Because the rest have averages too high, have never ridden here or their owned by a club that are not riding at present/any more. Piotr Pawlicki is 7.32. Hopefully back at Wolves tho. Doesn't Woffinden also have connections with Neil Machin ? Could very well happen this move. Woffy has stated he will always be happy to help Wolves out. If he was going to come back you can be sure if would be with Wolves. However he isn't coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 As of yesterday evening the SCB weren't aware of Vaculik's average - anymore than any of the other assessed riders!! The SCB have asked for the full 'independent' list of averages which they expect to receive later this week. (As advised by Gordon Pairman to me yesterday!!) Thanks for the update Skidder :-) I like many are eager to learn what the various av will come out at. No easy job as will they leave 2016/17 GSA as is. What do they do about riders in 2013/14/15 (not a massive list but still a list). You have riders who were younger in those years and have improved just as maybe some haven't or are not so good as they were back then. Similar as to what do they do to assess young Poles who have ridden mainly against other juniors in POL EXL plus having never done UK. How do you assess those plus young Danes and swedes that MAYBE a promoter/manager may want to sign. There are plenty of exciting youngsters out there that are not brits who may have big future sin the Sport. Not naming any as want my team to get in first if possible ;-) On the youngster under 21 situation it isn't really that major a job. If you take the top 2 juniors in each POL EXL team then you have similar (maybe not so many ??) in SWE and DK. probably no more than 30/35 riders max to give an assessment on, made easier as they are 21 or under and have never ridden in UK. At least an early release of all this info then gives a level playing field for all those promoters/managers who may want to approach the riders if they are interested to come to UK and get that all important experience on our smaller/more technical tracks. Lets also hope its made available to all and not just the inner sanctum of promoters/managers ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Well at least the 'final 2017' averages are now on the BSPA website. I doubt the 'assessed list' will not become public (and why should it as long as the clubs know?) until the SCB have approved all the BSPA proposed rules and decided what category the assessed riders fit into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Krystian Pieszczek now signed team looking good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) Krystian Pieszczek now signed team looking good Not a name I am familiar with. Averaged 1.544 (6.176 in our money) from 13 meetings in the Ekstraliga last year. Which is more than Kildemand, Sundstrom & Thorsell. Not totally representative of course as he could well have attained that average from reserve. Swedish stats unsurprisingly not as impressive, but still not bad 1,290 (5.16) from 8 meetings for Lejonen in Elitserien. Assume he starts on 4.00? Edited November 24, 2017 by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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