pete cc Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'd like to see a proper rest for the tapes. Watch a match on TV & you will see a traffic cone with a stick stuffed into it holding the tapes when windy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'd like to see a proper rest for the tapes. Watch a match on TV & you will see a traffic cone with a stick stuffed into it holding the tapes when windy. Â I could do with a proper rest meself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'd like to see a proper rest for the tapes. Watch a match on TV & you will see a traffic cone with a stick stuffed into it holding the tapes when windy. It would have to be a Kelvin Tatum endorsed 'proper Speedway' rest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 It would have to be a Kelvin Tatum endorsed 'proper Speedway' rest. He would just call the cone a tapeometer... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Briggo's in the country working on it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 It's far too easy to say relax work permits or bring in more riders etc pretty sure we'd all like another 50 young kids on a production line but more needs to be done to develope them in the first place but if bspa act now they could have a good 20-30+ new riders in the sport within 5 years Already underway and starting to produce the goods, where have you been. Easy making statements to others but it has been stated time and time again what Neil Vatcher has been doing for the last few years. How about attending a British Youth Championship round somewhere near you, you might be impressed. Look in the 'Young Brits' website or in the forward fixture list published in the BSPA panel. It's not a secret. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Look at the first 5 words you've put in bold text 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Look at the first 5 words you've put in bold text Look at my post and read what I have said. It is being done and is getting better every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauger65 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 where would i start !!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Look at my post and read what I have said. It is being done and is getting better every year. And even more can be done 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Already underway and starting to produce the goods, where have you been. Easy making statements to others but it has been stated time and time again what Neil Vatcher has been doing for the last few years. How about attending a British Youth Championship round somewhere near you, you might be impressed. Look in the 'Young Brits' website or in the forward fixture list published in the BSPA panel. It's not a secret. The good work which has been done over the past few years has now started to show fruition. Look at Tom Brennan, Kyle Bickley, Jordan Jenkins who have come through this season. Drew Kemp and Jason Edwards will come through next season. Fantastic work. Hopefully even more in the pipeline. It would be great to expand numbers and give the set up as much help as possible. My own wish is that every team would have some sort of junior team, NJL, MDL, SJL type and a junior meeting would take place after every meeting, even if it meant racing against the same team on a few occasions, because it would probably have to be regionalised to cut down on costs. The more track time young riders get the better. And you would be surprised at how many fans actually stay behind to watch the yongsters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 The good work which has been done over the past few years has now started to show fruition. Look at Tom Brennan, Kyle Bickley, Jordan Jenkins who have come through this season. Drew Kemp and Jason Edwards will come through next season. Fantastic work. Hopefully even more in the pipeline. It would be great to expand numbers and give the set up as much help as possible. My own wish is that every team would have some sort of junior team, NJL, MDL, SJL type and a junior meeting would take place after every meeting, even if it meant racing against the same team on a few occasions, because it would probably have to be regionalised to cut down on costs. The more track time young riders get the better. And you would be surprised at how many fans actually stay behind to watch the yongsters. Am excellent post showing what more could be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlislecomet2 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Where to start? One professional league (of 18 hopefully), riding against every other team once at home and once away. Racing on the same 3 or possibly 4 fixed nights, avoiding the bigger leagues in Europe. Ending of doubling up - it is a complete farce, and we do not have to accept it is here to stay. Riders to be contracted to the club they ride for - none of this, 'but he is an asset of'. More emphasis on getting through meetings quicker, by reducing the faffing about after restarts etc. Generally more emphasis being placed on keeping the paying public happy and informed. Track covers to be compulsory, there is always a way. More being done to make the speedway an event. More being done to get meetings on in the warm summer months. The ending of replaying cup matches - have a golden heat or heats. The ending on the tactical ride, if you are getting stuffed, you are getting stuffed. Go back to a bonus point for winning on aggregate the home and away matches against each team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Not enough riders for an 18 team league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Not enough riders for an 18 team league  There are, but obviously with a lower overall standard. This was done in mid-August so not using the latest averages.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/f7j1s6eh9153as2/Speedway.pdf?dl=0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Am excellent post showing what more could be done  The excellent cop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Â There are, but obviously with a lower overall standard. Â Just an idea, but we could maybe do with a de-strengthening of the second tier, like was done in around 1997 season? Â I'm sure most of us already know all this stuff but maybe worth a recap. As you may recall the two divisions ("Div 1" and "Div 2" as was called then) merged in 1995 season, thus was formed the "Premier League" of 21 teams. The amalgamated one league format remained for another season i.e. 1996 season. However, in the close season everything changed as the top boys wanted to break away hence the Elite League was born and the second tier retained its Premier moniker. The second tier was "de-strengthened" as they seem to call it so previous second strings under the amalgamated set up now became heat leaders as some of them had been before the merger but now achieving even higher averages than before - given that the second strings and reserves were now of a lesser standard even than before the amalgamation. Â Prelude now over, there's maybe a call for a similar de-strengthening of the second tier. It seems to me that the difference in standard between the top two tiers is much less then it used to be (e.g. old BL/NL of the 80's). I know that some of that is due to not attracting GP riders as once was or World Finalists pre-GP days. Nevertheless, the difference in standard between second and top tier could maybe do with being restored by de-strengthening the second tier. This would enable young up and coming riders to be utilised and the tendency for doubling up could be reduced - a top rider probably wouldn't want to "double down" so much anyway. So doubling up/down could be limited as some appear to want (e.g. limited to British riders only) and it may be enough of a compromise between those that reckon doubling up should or has to remain and those that don't think it should be there at all. My mate Spanner may well be swung by this (thanks for getting back to me mate). Â That's just my take on things. But really we're all on the same side, we all want Speedway to flourish. That we have different ideas on how to get there is a good thing. The more the merrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Â The excellent cop out. Move on mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Â Just an idea, but we could maybe do with a de-strengthening of the second tier, like was done in around 1997 season? Â I'm sure most of us already know all this stuff but maybe worth a recap. As you may recall the two divisions ("Div 1" and "Div 2" as was called then) merged in 1995 season, thus was formed the "Premier League" of 21 teams. The amalgamated one league format remained for another season i.e. 1996 season. However, in the close season everything changed as the top boys wanted to break away hence the Elite League was born and the second tier retained its Premier moniker. The second tier was "de-strengthened" as they seem to call it so previous second strings under the amalgamated set up now became heat leaders as some of them had been before the merger but now achieving even higher averages than before - given that the second strings and reserves were now of a lesser standard even than before the amalgamation. Â Prelude now over, there's maybe a call for a similar de-strengthening of the second tier. It seems to me that the difference in standard between the top two tiers is much less then it used to be (e.g. old BL/NL of the 80's). I know that some of that is due to not attracting GP riders as once was or World Finalists pre-GP days. Nevertheless, the difference in standard between second and top tier could maybe do with being restored by de-strengthening the second tier. This would enable young up and coming riders to be utilised and the tendency for doubling up could be reduced - a top rider probably wouldn't want to "double down" so much anyway. So doubling up/down could be limited as some appear to want (e.g. limited to British riders only) and it may be enough of a compromise between those that reckon doubling up should or has to remain and those that don't think it should be there at all. My mate Spanner may well be swung by this (thanks for getting back to me mate). Â That's just my take on things. But really we're all on the same side, we all want Speedway to flourish. That we have different ideas on how to get there is a good thing. The more the merrier. The change was actually BSPA getting to know that a 'black' pirate league was being formed at a mixed PL and NL level. Faced with the fact that the black league being viable, and in completion to them, they invited us to join a new PL cheaper league which we agreed to do, and therefore we had a strong cheaper lower league with a decent number of teams. We agreed that that league would be limited to only 16 teams. We were one of the rebel teams, and it contained some surprising BSPA teams who had jumped ship. Interesting times those. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 If I remember rightly,both Sheffield and Glasgow were mooted to join that 'pirate league' in 1997. Â Anyhow back to the thread topic, Â The League winners go straight to the play off final,there needs to be a better bonus to finishing first then getting first pick of the other teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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