Norfolk Bear Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 For next season, for me the big 2 to sort is Double up / down must be banned , Guests , for me stop altogether, guests for Reserves what a joke . Don’t address these & crowds will drop further 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 For next season, for me the big 2 to sort is Double up / down must be banned , Guests , for me stop altogether, guests for Reserves what a joke . Don’t address these & crowds will drop further Could not agree more, at Berwick we have had a guest at No7 for most of the season, a 2 point position should be easy to fill even if they are not brilliant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Could not agree more, at Berwick we have had a guest at No7 for most of the season, a 2 point position should be easy to fill even if they are not brilliant as did workingtom . ruined a season and with the average fixer , we werte foo ed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 without guests people argue that there would be drubbings but there's drubbings anyway and at least without guest they would be honest drubbings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 without guests people argue that there would be drubbings but there's drubbings anyway and at least without guest they would be honest drubbings Would it also not affect attendances too? If you've got one (or more) NL type rider guesting for your team (especially if it's the number one and/or number two in the averages they are replacing), would you turn up and watch, knowing the likelihood is a thrashing? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Would it also not affect attendances too? If you've got one (or more) NL type rider guesting for your team (especially if it's the number one and/or number two in the averages they are replacing), would you turn up and watch, knowing the likelihood is a thrashing? I mean you make a good point but people say they stay away if guests are involved I, for one, consider guests make a fixture meaningless and prob wouldn't go maybe if their usage could be severely restricted... Would it also not affect attendances too? If you've got one (or more) NL type rider guesting for your team (especially if it's the number one and/or number two in the averages they are replacing), would you turn up and watch, knowing the likelihood is a thrashing? I mean you make a good point but people say they stay away if guests are involved I, for one, consider guests make a fixture meaningless and prob wouldn't go maybe if their usage could be severely restricted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Please NO more of the same guest starring for both teams in a two legged cup final ( as with Scott Nicholls this season ). Way beyond credible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 An effort must be made to speed up the action In theory 15 heats of approx 1 min of action = 15 mins So why are meetings taking over 2 hrs no wonder newbies to our sport ain't returning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 And Please No More double headers a la Stoke's end of season frolics! 30 heats plus advertised and 20 run - was a refund offered? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Teams have a 8 month season to fit fixtures in so why do clubs try to cram in fixtures in the last few weeks of the season .Rain offs are a part of this sport but clubs should rearrange these earlier.or by a set date ,it's farcical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 Surely every round of the cup should have a to be completed by date. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 If doubling up continues & the current guest free for all then I will be staying away. I refuse to continue supporting a sport that makes & breaks rules to suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 When riders miss matches for no good reason, no guests allowed & a 28 day ban! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Speedway is advertised as exciting, thrilling, full of drama but for those 15 mins or racing ( of which 5 might be genuinely exciting ) you have to suffer 8 - 10 mins per race of tractor racing, inaudible announcements and interviews with riders, old music played too loudly and other boring pointless goings on. Or you can go to buy very unhealthy, expensive junk food. The overall experience for a newbie - can't be very impressive can it? Why I became addicted to it I just can't work out 60 years later. I blame my parents. Thankfully my love affair / obsession has slowly ebbed away over the past few years ( of disillusionment at how it has been run ) and I'm free to waste my money on something else. Over the years I took many newbies and very, very few returned of their own accord. Most cited - the first away nearly always wins. The only thing to be improved is better, closer more exciting racing and crisply run meetings where fans are more involved. Sadly in my experience the promoters, collectively can't or won't do that. It's very reminiscent of what happened to the British motorcycle industry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Speedway is advertised as exciting, thrilling, full of drama but for those 15 mins or racing ( of which 5 might be genuinely exciting ) you have to suffer 8 - 10 mins per race of tractor racing, inaudible announcements and interviews with riders, old music played too loudly and other boring pointless goings on. Or you can go to buy very unhealthy, expensive junk food. The overall experience for a newbie - can't be very impressive can it? Why I became addicted to it I just can't work out 60 years later. I blame my parents. Thankfully my love affair / obsession has slowly ebbed away over the past few years ( of disillusionment at how it has been run ) and I'm free to waste my money on something else. Over the years I took many newbies and very, very few returned of their own accord. Most cited - the first away nearly always wins. The only thing to be improved is better, closer more exciting racing and crisply run meetings where fans are more involved. Sadly in my experience the promoters, collectively can't or won't do that. It's very reminiscent of what happened to the British motorcycle industry. Agree with much of that. Peterborough isn't too bad to be fair although always room for improvement in all areas. It's the lack of consistency that P's me off. Sometimes good presentation, next time plop. Sometimes music ok at a good level. Next booming dross at high level. Next the music back to ok but you need the ear trumpet to hear it, as well as any announcements. Invisible tedious pit interviews breaking the atmos do my head in. I'd ban the roving mic from anywhere but the centre green. Meetings are often run swiftly but also sometimes strung out through lack of urgency, for which the ref is often pointed out as the problem? If I was promoter I'd be requesting that they not irritate the punters and run the meeting efficiently, of course checking with a BSPA official first to see whether such advice would incur a fine? That's of course if it is the ref that's the problem? When riders miss matches for no good reason, no guests allowed & a 28 day ban! That short changes punters. 28 day ban is fine although I'd make it 56 to focus the mind. Teams should be allowed a like for like guest so that the meeting is as competetive as it should have been. If doubling up continues & the current guest free for all then I will be staying away. I refuse to continue supporting a sport that makes & breaks rules to suit It's certainly getting to the point where you have to question why you're turning up to watch a constant stream of select sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Keep it simple https://app.box.com/s/fzngmofjdpxqb3ycqmkihyjmezg8mepe Most important thing is the standard of on track entertainment. Tracks which are conducive to passing, meetings planned to be completed in under 90 minutes, jump starts to be penalised retrospectively at the end of the heat. Promoters must understand that new supporters are likely to have been attracted by SGP so the product has to meet expectations whilst being financially viable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 And Please No More double headers a la Stoke's end of season frolics! 30 heats plus advertised and 20 run - was a refund offered? Some clubs like Edinburgh are very good at putting on double headers & get all 30 heats on! Stoke seem very poor at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Get rid of Chapman & Godfrey, & get a new chairman & vice chairman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Get rid of Chapman & Godfrey, & get a new chairman & vice chairman That should be the 1st thing on the agenda to get shut of Gobfrey and (Buster) Chapman as neither of them are fit for purpose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 That should be the 1st thing on the agenda to get shut of Gobfrey and (Buster) Chapman as neither of them are fit for purpose. The question is who the he*l is, it's the same names in the frame going around in circles, the new bad decisions on officers are the same old bad decisions on the same old names. They are the problem, the only difference is which clowns are you going to vote for this time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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