Baldyman Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 I would like to change the zero league sponsorship, to a league that has sponsorship, and the sponsors money is the prize fund of your final league position, like most pro sports. This would also help with fixtures being arranged I'm sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 There is no value for sponsorship baldy, it would be better to offer it for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 If I remember rightly,both Sheffield and Glasgow were mooted to join that 'pirate league' in 1997. Â Anyhow back to the thread topic, Â The point regarding 1997 was of course also on topic i.e. de-strengthening of the second tier. In the longer term it didn't do the second tier any harm, and indeed the standard of rider substantially increased in successive years back to where it was, arguably stronger and a higher standard of rider such that many riders can change seamlessly from one to the other (doubling up/down). It may allow a larger number of riders to be utilised and reduce the need for doubling up/down. At least that's the logic. Just an idea. Â The League winners go straight to the play off final,there needs to be a better bonus to finishing first then getting first pick of the other teams. Â Yes there does need to be a better bonus for finishing first than getting first pick of the other teams. That better bonus should be - the League title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 There is no value for sponsorship baldy, it would be better to offer it for free But I would like to see it in a position where it's viable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 The BSPA and or GoSpeed only have viewing figures from BT Sport no other updated demographics, if they were to get a title sponsor it would have to be from within the sport such as a fan etc  And then the value isn't there, you couldn't expect to see enough to divide it by 12 teams and make much difference.  It would be better to look at popular companies that may have customers who are a good target audience and also look at brands that are associated to young people  Give title sponsorship to screwfix for free and have banners and flyers in all their stores to promote attending, insist on screwfix promoting regularly on social media  Give free sponsorship to vanarama and do the same as above  Maybe someone like Carabao energy to engage with a younger audience etc  After two years and having a few examples to show future paid sponsors they might be in a better position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 What do we need changing in Speedway next season? Worth having a look at this thread.... Â Glasgow Tigers V Newcastle Diamonds Ko Cup 1/4 Final 1st Leg Fri Oct 6th 2017: http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=85449 Â Tells you so much that is wrong with the sport and why so many are just fed up with how the sport is being run. So many factors on that thread and so many fed up and deciding not to attend, e.g. Lawson being absent due to doubling up, other riders injured and not allowed to sign replacements, first leg of KO Cup in.... October!! , etc. Â Due to doubling up, injured riders but not allowed to sign replacements, other rules relating to who has priority of which rider and/or which competitions have priority but then its not stuck to, rules being changed on the hoof, riders that should be available are not due to ad hoc changes to the rule book, it culminates in..... Â A first round KO Cup tie in October whereby Glasgow will have only two of their riders, four guests, and r/r. Â The thread noted above summarises so much that is wrong with the sport and the paying public is just fed up. That kind of tie doesn't interest me and I won't attend, and as has been noted on that thread there is a distinct lack off interest and even the Glasgow Tigers Supporters bus has had to be cancelled due to lack of interest, whereas if they had held this tie in say May then there would have been plenty interest and coach loads would have attended. Â The people running the sport need to have a long hard look at themselves. I won't be attending either due to the same apathy which has crept in among so many on that thread and who can blame them. Â BSPA sort yourselves out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highside Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 If the championship has to run on Mondays and Thursdays does that mean home meetings once every two weeks ? if so clubs will close and another nail in speedways coffin sad times . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantherman Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Nothing - everything is perfect and the sport is run by a great governing body who do everything in The best interest of the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Is there a viable alternative to amalgamation?  With Sheffield, Ipswich and Glasgow interested in going up  ...and doubts about Edinburgh, Peterborough, Scunthorpe, Newcastle and Workington for various reasons..  that leaves Berwick and Redcar in the second tier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Buster Chapman would be a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Is there a viable alternative to amalgamation?  With Sheffield, Ipswich and Glasgow interested in going up  ...and doubts about Edinburgh, Peterborough, Scunthorpe, Newcastle and Workington for various reasons..  that leaves Berwick and Redcar in the second tier! Don't think any Glasgow fan wants us to go up but if we do it will be because as you say there might not be many teams left to form a decent championship. Classic case of 'top' division manipulating things for there benefit 😠 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 The mooted pirate league sounds fascinating and i knew nothing about it (why would i) but i would love to hear more if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Kelly 41 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 The topic is: What Would I change in speedway next season? Â The answer is: The Chairman. Â End of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 I do not know the problem to solve it but how about 42 points and no rider above 8 points allowed in the league regardless unless they up there average in the season.You must also have 2 or 3 point riders at no 6&7 no higher unless they upped there average in that season.You could basically have four 8 point riders one six pointer and two 2 pointers or similar versions.This is just my thought but it is what riders are available and viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 League meetings held only between April and August. Any team that fails to complete its fixtures by the end of August loses two league points for each meeting not completed by the cut off date. Play offs first two weeks in September. Pre April and post September the British Invidual championship with at least one meeting held at every track. Grand final at the end of September. Then knock out cup or World Cup style meetings on a knock out basis. Three teams progress To the next round then the top two and then the final. Might want some work but it should guarantee regularly weekly speedway during the summer months for most teams. Oh a no excuses re rain offs etc in the league. Use the off race night or lose the league points. Bring back some discipline to running fixtures and stick to it no is or buts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Change the name to Any Way as that's how it's run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Rounding up or down averages would be a good idea if averages are kept for team building shame for someone to miss out because they are 0.17 over  7.43 is rounded to 7.5 8.17 to 8 and so on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olga Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Reduced fixtures - could be bigger crowds? Less running costs. Wrap it up by end of Sept. I agree about fixture discipline ... even to the point of if it's rained off twice ... then dish out the points 3 home and 1 away point No double ups or downs (and deffo no riders in 3 leagues) Tape break - 2 mins warning straight on Tractors after heat 4,8,12 that's it ... KOC draw over both legs ... then most heat winners decides it, followed by most 5-1s, failing that race by race until a heat advantage gained (manager nominates race by race and no riders ride more than once) No more mug shots of Phil Morris running GPs HA HA HA HA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) I would also change that it is not mandatory for all Aussies to say "yeah for sure" any more than 10 times in one interview. Edited October 6, 2017 by Gazc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Reduced fixtures - could be bigger crowds? Less running costs. Wrap it up by end of Sept. I agree about fixture discipline ... even to the point of if it's rained off twice ... then dish out the points 3 home and 1 away point No double ups or downs (and deffo no riders in 3 leagues) Tape break - 2 mins warning straight on Tractors after heat 4,8,12 that's it ... KOC draw over both legs ... then most heat winners decides it, followed by most 5-1s, failing that race by race until a heat advantage gained (manager nominates race by race and no riders ride more than once) No more mug shots of Phil Morris running GPs HA HA HA HA So the best team in the league are due to visit your track and they always win at your track, call it off twice and get 3 points lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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