Arch Stanton Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Sidney the robin said: Will he though at Ipswich do you guarantee that he has a three year saving grace time of learning his trade will he get the support like Bickley has at Worky.? From the fans? I’m pretty confident he will, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Arch Stanton said: From the fans? I’m pretty confident he will, yes. Local riders over the years have been appreciated at Ipswich so yes i agree Kemp is a talent and i hope he does well for the Witches.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Great news signing Kemp hopefully the experience will hold him in good stead for a full season with the Witches next year. One question is have we seen the last of Hartel or will he be back next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Simple solution... make both reserve berths only for British riders under 21 in the Championship. They stay there all year regardless of averages. If an injury occurs to a reserve like with Hume then another rider replaces them that meets the criteria. No longer would you get the likes of Garcia or Jensen being at reserve when they shouldn't be.....if they food enough then they should be in the 1-5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Will he though at Ipswich do you guarantee that he has a three year saving grace time of learning his trade will he get the support like Bickley has at Worky.? an unequivocal YES Id say Connor has had a fair go and I think it is with some reluctance that the decision has been made. The play offs this year are at best an outside chance and if we are to miss out then the next priority must be to enhance home results to maintain the home crowd This is why Garcia is seen as a better option as Connors home average is only 2.50 (away is 4) (Danyon is the opposite - home 4.5 away 1.5) With Danyon out and only 2 point replacement possible I can understand why the balance needed to be addressed (or at least attempt to address) Had Danyon scored just 4 more points from the 77 rides in his rolling average then Garcia could've been a direct like for like replacement - that's how tight the difference is between having to make the change this way Connor is indeed unfortunate in many ways and I endorse that we should 'back the Brits' but that needs to be a league directive and whilst that is not the rule changes such as this have to be considered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Spl77 said: Great news signing Kemp hopefully the experience will hold him in good stead for a full season with the Witches next year. One question is have we seen the last of Hartel or will he be back next year? Hopefully we’ll see him again, and Jeppesen, in the 16 lapper possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Spl77 said: One question is have we seen the last of Hartel or will he be back next year? I very much doubt it going on the precident set...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The play offs this year are at best an outside chance and if we are to miss out then the next priority must be to enhance home results to maintain the home crowd Do you really think this team will maintain the home crowd, wouldn't be surprised if the crowd was down on Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: an unequivocal YES Id say Connor has had a fair go and I think it is with some reluctance that the decision has been made. The play offs this year are at best an outside chance and if we are to miss out then the next priority must be to enhance home results to maintain the home crowd This is why Garcia is seen as a better option as Connors home average is only 2.50 (away is 4) (Danyon is the opposite - home 4.5 away 1.5) With Danyon out and only 2 point replacement possible I can understand why the balance needed to be addressed (or at least attempt to address) Had Danyon scored just 4 more points from the 77 rides in his rolling average then Garcia could've been a direct like for like replacement - that's how tight the difference is between having to make the change this way Connor is indeed unfortunate in many ways and I endorse that we should 'back the Brits' but that needs to be a league directive and whilst that is not the rule changes such as this have to be considered I felt Danyon at home without his falls would be averaging 5.20/5.60 ? if he was not injured would he of still got the nod over Connor.?.The changes for me though have covered over the cracks of not getting the top five right they should of been able to carry the two Brits end of and these changes won't amount to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Bash said: Do you really think this team will maintain the home crowd, wouldn't be surprised if the crowd was down on Thursday. Riss has had some reasonably impressive outings at Foxhall and Garcia looked competitive on his recent visit. Both can be entertaining. That combination improves the chances of a home win and provides a chance of some entertainment which will be what the majority want to be persuaded to turn up the next week. 90% 0f fans don't give 2 hoots what happens away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Unless it goes Pete Tong for one of the other teams will be a struggle to make the play off, having a reserve score zero every meeting isn't the best thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Unless it goes Pete Tong for one of the other teams will be a struggle to make the play off, having a reserve score zero every meeting isn't the best thing Brennan, Stoneman, Bailey, ???? Wallinger is baffling six meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Think there would have been a fair amount of positivity had someone like Brennan been announced and not Harvey wallbanger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Anyone but Dave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8scot Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Good luck to Mark, I really hope this move kickstarts a return to form. Mark is a much better rider than he has been this year so far and a quiet, very nice guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Riss wasn't that good when Edinburgh were here earlier in the season. He was easily beaten in his first ride, and won against a half fit Danny who then withdrew from the meeting. He didn't trouble the scorers after that. As people have said he was dropped for a reason by Edinburgh. With regards to Wallinger he has a NL average of 5.64, not exactly tearing it up and doesn't appear in any of the team line-ups. Agree there are better options out there, someone mentioned Ryan Kinsley who has an average of 9.68 better than Danyon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Simple solution... make both reserve berths only for British riders under 21 in the Championship. They stay there all year regardless of averages. If an injury occurs to a reserve like with Hume then another rider replaces them that meets the criteria. No longer would you get the likes of Garcia or Jensen being at reserve when they shouldn't be.....if they food enough then they should be in the 1-5 if workington had any fixtures before the next set of averages came out . rasmus jensen would not be at reserve for workington . in his place would be RENE BACH . . work that one out. from number 1 to reserve . but after the next set it could be jensen or campton . i agree , brits should be given a chance @ reserve , but the steve boxall guy ruined that joy for rye house and the bspa I (them again ) made him move into the 1 to 5 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 The best solution would be for the average for an overseas rider not failing below his assessed. So if a rider comes in on a 5.00 at the start of the season but is only averaging 3.0 he keeps the 5.00 until which time he averages over 5.00. If he ends the season as a 3 point rider he would keep his assessed average of 5 for the following season. That should stop promoter's going down the overseas route unless they are a true talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spl77 said: The best solution would be for the average for an overseas rider not failing below his assessed. So if a rider comes in on a 5.00 at the start of the season but is only averaging 3.0 he keeps the 5.00 until which time he averages over 5.00. If he ends the season as a 3 point rider he would keep his assessed average of 5 for the following season. That should stop promoter's going down the overseas route unless they are a true talent. That does happen to an extent - although it is not the full assessed average that is retained The average cannot drop below 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Oh a half hearted rule.... assessed ave should that, you keep it until you have achieved it. If a rider is good enough to come in on a 5.20 ave then they should only improve...once they have achieved an average of over 5.20 then they would be able to drop under that mark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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