Berwickbandits2018

[concessionscol]

well is it true bandits signed 1st ex rider

[Fromafar]

We would just have to join the big league. Its pretty much the same as ours anyway with a couple of exceptions. With only 2 defined race nights though it could create wage inflation as each team is pretty much chasing the same bank of riders.

The defined race nights would not suit Berwick, as indeed nor would the wage bill IMO

[concessionscol]

well is it true bandits signed 1st ex rider alsoa check wasseen in berwicktoday mmmmmmm

 

[New era Panthers]

 

well is it true bandits signed 1st ex rider alsoa check wasseen in berwicktoday mmmmmmm

 

 

Yes it's Willie Templeton.

[concessionscol]

Yes it's Willie Templeton.

no try again

[topsoil]

Dougie Templeton?

The defined race nights would not suit Berwick, as indeed nor would the wage bill IMO

The current setup suits Berwick perfectly, mostly northern clubs who bring a good amount of travelling fans and no need for expensive top line riders. Joining the top league would kill off Berwick.

[AlanF]

If the Premiership promoters get their way not sure what we will see at Berwick next season,the sport is just a joke .Ruining a perfectly good Championsip league for their own self interests seem to be on the agenda.

How do you define a "perfectly good Championship league". The current system is unsustainable. Glasgow have to run this week with four guests and rider replacement. Something has to change.

[tyretrax]

To New era Panthers-Not funny.

[Fromafar]

How do you define a "perfectly good Championship league". The current system is unsustainable. Glasgow have to run this week with four guests and rider replacement. Something has to change.

 

I am only talking league numbers and present clubs,we all know what is being plotted.Everybody knows that this seasons fixture planning and doubling up has been a disaster ,and something has to change,whether the changes will suit the present Championship setup remains to be seen.I Personaly think Berwick race night has to remain a Sat.

[New era Panthers]

To New era Panthers-Not funny.

No offence intended.

[samsplint]

if the race night was to change they would have renew their planning permission which could be a problem as this will open the doors to any objections and I know a few people who live around the stadium who would object as they hate the speedway

[Robinh88]

I'm not sure things can change in regard to the doubling up rule if the league's format stays as it is?

 

Being patriotic for a second I do like the fact British riders in the present HAVE the option to race both leagues.

 

But until specific race nights are implemented Peterborough's team (minus harris and holder) at workington shall happen again. There just isn't enough riders to go around anymore. The continent is a dry bed of blooming talent because the Ekstraliga/Elitserian can blow any uk team out of the water financially. So if you lose cook, lambert etc, are there riders to replace them or do you reduce the limit further to compensate?

 

It's about survival for britain, maybe overtime the money may run out in the bigger leagues overseas but in the meantime I think doubling up is here to stay.

 

 

 

Edited October 6, 2017 by 13GrigorijLaguta

[balderdash&piffle]

I'm not sure things can change in regard to the doubling up rule if the league's format stays as it is?

 

Being patriotic for a second I do like the fact British riders in the present HAVE the option to race both leagues.

 

But until specific race nights are implemented Peterborough's team (minus harris and holder) at workington shall happen again. There just isn't enough riders to go around anymore. The continent is a dry bed of blooming talent because the Ekstraliga/Elitserian can blow any uk team out of the water financially. So if you lose cook, lambert etc, are there riders to replace them or do you reduce the limit further to compensate?

 

It's about survival for britain, maybe overtime the money may run out in the bigger leagues overseas but in the meantime I think doubling up is here to stay.

 

 

 

Doubling up is a travesty, and should be stopped immediately, NO RIDER SHOULD IN 2 LEAGUES, LET ALONE 3

[BenR195]

Doubling up is a travesty, and should be stopped immediately, NO RIDER SHOULD IN 2 LEAGUES, LET ALONE 3

Why not? If you had a job and werent earning enough money youd get a 2nd job for extra income, why shouldnt riders be able to do the same? its their job at the end of the day, people will say get a proper job outside of speedway but not many would employ someone that would have to take days off work to attend meetings then take time off to wash bikes and prep ready for the next day, then if he gets injured the employer would have to find cover for him, not many people would take these lads on so they have to find a 2nd team, and the more they ride, the sharper they are, if they only ride in 1 team they will have 1/2 meetings per week and sometimes go a couple of weeks with no meetings at all depending on weather and thats not gonna pay their living is it, I can see the fans frustration when riders arent available because they have meetings elsewhere but you have to look at it from the riders point of view aswell, if the top league go to set days then that will solve that problem as there wont be any dates clashing with the middle league

[balderdash&piffle]

Why not? If you had a job and werent earning enough money youd get a 2nd job for extra income, why shouldnt riders be able to do the same? its their job at the end of the day, people will say get a proper job outside of speedway but not many would employ someone that would have to take days off work to attend meetings then take time off to wash bikes and prep ready for the next day, then if he gets injured the employer would have to find cover for him, not many people would take these lads on so they have to find a 2nd team, and the more they ride, the sharper they are, if they only ride in 1 team they will have 1/2 meetings per week and sometimes go a couple of weeks with no meetings at all depending on weather and thats not gonna pay their living is it, I can see the fans frustration when riders arent available because they have meetings elsewhere but you have to look at it from the riders point of view aswell, if the top league go to set days then that will solve that problem as there wont be any dates clashing with the middle league

Is speedway a job ?

I rode Enduro for Yamaha representing Wales as well, it was a hobby. If there is not enough money in just speedway, then get a job to care for your own needs then any income from speedway can subsidise your hobby. Isn't that how it used to be, you have riders in the 3rd tier and the 2nd tier especially think they are superstars whos demands on the sport are unrealistic. This year because of doubling up as turned the play offs into a total farce

 

Looking at it from the riders point of view is killing the sport, too much self importance. Design a set of rules and implement them

Edited October 6, 2017 by balderdash&piffle

[BenR195]

Is speedway a job ?

I rode Enduro for Yamaha representing Wales as well, it was a hobby. If there is not enough money in just speedway, then get a job to care for your own needs then any income from speedway can subsidise your hobby. Isn't that how it used to be, you have riders in the 3rd tier and the 2nd tier especially think they are superstars whos demands on the sport are unrealistic. This year because of doubling up as turned the play offs into a total farce

 

Looking at it from the riders point of view is killing the sport, too much self importance. Design a set of rules and implement them

Then you get riders missing meetings coz they have to work to support their families, so whats the difference between that and him riding for another team, either way he still isnt available for you, speedway is a job these days as riders can be riding the majority of the week if they do it right, if they manage to get 4/5/6 meetings a week where do they find time to get a real job?

[Gazc]

Why not? If you had a job and werent earning enough money youd get a 2nd job for extra income, why shouldnt riders be able to do the same? its their job at the end of the day, people will say get a proper job outside of speedway but not many would employ someone that would have to take days off work to attend meetings then take time off to wash bikes and prep ready for the next day, then if he gets injured the employer would have to find cover for him, not many people would take these lads on so they have to find a 2nd team, and the more they ride, the sharper they are, if they only ride in 1 team they will have 1/2 meetings per week and sometimes go a couple of weeks with no meetings at all depending on weather and thats not gonna pay their living is it, I can see the fans frustration when riders arent available because they have meetings elsewhere but you have to look at it from the riders point of view aswell, if the top league go to set days then that will solve that problem as there wont be any dates clashing with the middle league

There might be no middle league the way it is looking so what do they do then.

[balderdash&piffle]

There might be no middle league the way it is looking so what do they do then.

With the amount of teams who may not be running next year, the only common sense decision is to run one league. The so called Premier league (Elite) has been pandered too for far to long, to the detriment of the better run 2nd tier Championship league. The race rules need a drastic overall and massively simplified, and need to stop pandering to the riders and involve the fans more, after all no paying fans, no speedway.

[Fromafar]

With the amount of teams who may not be running next year, the only common sense decision is to run one league. The so called Premier league (Elite) has been pandered too for far to long, to the detriment of the better run 2nd tier Championship league. The race rules need a drastic overall and massively simplified, and need to stop pandering to the riders and involve the fans more, after all no paying fans, no speedway.

Thats how I see it too.It will never change though.Berwick fell for it in the early nineties when we were persuaded to move up.

[topsoil]

Don't have a problem with riders doubling up personally, as long as they don't miss meetings. Which I hope will be sorted out by the Premiership moving to Monday / Thursday nights as rumoured. Hopefully the Championship will have a similar line up to this season, as this suits Berwick. Not sure there are enough riders out there willing to ride in Britain to go to one league, without weakening the league to include a lot of current National League riders.