George Dodds Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 7:12 AM, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Wrong! Sponsorship... Don’t try and say that 99% of a riders income is through the Club Expand stand corrected - although how much sponsorship would you say is individually gernerated by the riders and how much by the club (ie the promoters)? Would like to see your figures and accept I went high but I still maintain that the huge majority of a rider's income will come in signing-on fees, insurance, tyres and points' money - all of which comes from the promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 7:20 AM, George Dodds said: stand corrected - although how much sponsorship would you say is individually gernerated by the riders and how much by the club (ie the promoters)? Would like to see your figures and accept I went high but I still maintain that the huge majority of a rider's income will come in signing-on fees, insurance, tyres and points' money - all of which comes from the promotion. Expand Which all comes from the paying fan, it is therefore the paying support that pay the riders wages and the Promotion manage that money. Sponsorship is significant to a rider I would probably look in the region of about 33% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 7:20 AM, George Dodds said: stand corrected - although how much sponsorship would you say is individually gernerated by the riders and how much by the club (ie the promoters)? Would like to see your figures and accept I went high but I still maintain that the huge majority of a rider's income will come in signing-on fees, insurance, tyres and points' money - all of which comes from the promotion. Expand Unsure how insurance works but surely that isn’t an income? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 7:57 AM, balderdash&piffle said: Which all comes from the paying fan, it is therefore the paying support that pay the riders wages and the Promotion manage that money. Sponsorship is significant to a rider I would probably look in the region of about 33% Expand Correct regarding paying support,Promotion are always saying the club has to be viable which means supporters and Sponsers are paying the bills and the Promotion manage that money.When they start losing money(that they can't afford too) they bail out.(can't blame them for that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 8:23 AM, Fromafar said: Correct regarding paying support,Promotion are always saying the club has to be viable which means supporters and Sponsers are paying the bills and the Promotion manage that money.When they start losing money(that they can't afford too) they bail out.(can't blame them for that) Expand Aye, but you cannot blame the fan for poor management, and you cannot blame the fan when poor management depletes the entertainment. I still think if Scott had continued in the way he said he would, there was a possibility of success, it does appear however that recent history has reappeared, and it does make you ask the question 'who is pulling the strings' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alang Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 It just seems sad that for a relatively small club like Berwick which probably needs every side pulling together for it to survive,this never seems to happen for any period of time.You can blame current and previous promotions but at least they all had the balls to put their money in and buy the club.You can blame the supporters club but they do raise funds and help the riders and indirectly the club.Surely to God even in Berwick there must be at least one individual with half a brain who can get both sides together and knock some sense into them.If not, the same old future beckons again - half way through the season,bottom of the league and rumours that the promoters are looking to sell at the end of the season.One time though there just might not be a buyer.So to both sides,swallow your pride,forget your egos and try and work together for the future of the club - please 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Surely at the start of the season is when everyone should be positive, looking forward to the new season, new riders and a good season all round. Sad then the history seems to be repeating itself , lessons possibly not learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 11:22 AM, alang said: It just seems sad that for a relatively small club like Berwick which probably needs every side pulling together for it to survive,this never seems to happen for any period of time.You can blame current and previous promotions but at least they all had the balls to put their money in and buy the club.You can blame the supporters club but they do raise funds and help the riders and indirectly the club.Surely to God even in Berwick there must be at least one individual with half a brain who can get both sides together and knock some sense into them.If not, the same old future beckons again - half way through the season,bottom of the league and rumours that the promoters are looking to sell at the end of the season.One time though there just might not be a buyer.So to both sides,swallow your pride,forget your egos and try and work together for the future of the club - please Expand I absolutely agree with you. You would think that the Promotion would be pleased that Berwick has a successful Supporters Club, and it doesn't matter how they allocate their hard earned money, it all helps to the success of the club.. I fear that this blow up, is more about Control, rather than common sense. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) Maybe the Edinburgh Supporters' Club are a good example to follow? They seem to work very well with each other? Edited March 27, 2018 by bigeddiechek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 11:43 AM, screm said: Surely at the start of the season is when everyone should be positive, looking forward to the new season, new riders and a good season all round. Expand Absolutely spot on! We have a bright new promotion with bright new ideas. It would be great if everyone could get behind them as they take the Bandits forward into a 51st season...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Everyone IS behind them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 5:58 PM, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Everyone IS behind them? Expand Sounds like a pantomime.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concessionscol Posted March 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 the new season and already can sence un rest in the camp so bandit fans get behind scott and the team and lets have a great season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 6:48 PM, cornhillcowboy24 said: the new season and already can sence un rest in the camp so bandit fans get behind scott and the team and lets have a great season Expand Give us a B 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 3:14 PM, bigeddiechek said: Maybe the Edinburgh Supporters' Club are a good example to follow? They seem to work very well with each other? Expand Edinburgh have had the same Promotion for the last 30 years+, so the Supporters Club know who they are dealing with,that could be the reason they get on very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 3:14 PM, bigeddiechek said: Maybe the Edinburgh Supporters' Club are a good example to follow? They seem to work very well with each other? Expand Scott, I dont know much about Edinburgh set up, but worth investigating. I was hoping all of the problems of the recent past were out of the window, with Scott & Jamie in charge, a better rapport would be happening. It appears that the old demands have returned, instead of working for the benefit of the club in a harmonious way. I would never dream of picking an arguament with my customers, it would only me that would be the loser. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 3:19 PM, crescent girl said: Absolutely spot on! We have a bright new promotion with bright new ideas. It would be great if everyone could get behind them as they take the Bandits forward into a 51st season...... Expand Nicely edited, though for fairness and for the odd forum rule it would be an idea to quote the whole post. Anyway the part you quoted I still believe, though it is sad the with only a few days to go before season start we have the club and the supporters club at odds, there must be some coming ground somewhere when an agreement or working relationship can be agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 What has actually happened? As far as I understood everything was fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havenagotahope Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 What needs to happen is they all need to grow up and get it sorted or wrap it up before it dies a natural death of its own accord. It’s money not life and death we are taking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think the fans should just be excited by what a top team the Bandits have assembled and really be hopeful of a push for the title this coming season. With passing galore and a real carnival atmosphere I’m sure theres never been a better time to get to Shielfield and support the club. For anyone thats had enough already, Poland starts very shortly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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