SteveLyric2 Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 To be honest I was quite impressed with him when he guested for Poole against the Robins in August. Did his job at reserve and looked very competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 Riss isn’t injured. No replacements after August 15th. So he has been axed. There should be no facility and Belle Vue should go into the playoffs with one reserve. They simply did this to strengthen which is against the rules after 15th August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Riss isn’t injured. No replacements after August 15th. So he has been axed. There should be no facility and Belle Vue should go into the playoffs with one reserve. They simply did this to strengthen which is against the rules after 15th August. Don't think it's got anything to do with Belle Vue as such. Ipswich are out the Play-Offs and he's been garbage for Belle Vue so I think Riss has cut his losses and gone home. He's withholding his services, 28 day ban, guests for both clubs. What it absolutely does do is strengthen Belle Vue substantially, King's Lynn will be in for a tough time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Daniel Smith said: Don't think it's got anything to do with Belle Vue as such. Ipswich are out the Play-Offs and he's been garbage for Belle Vue so I think Riss has cut his losses and gone home. He's withholding his services, 28 day ban, guests for both clubs. What it absolutely does do is strengthen Belle Vue substantially, King's Lynn will be in for a tough time. Riss is under contract and obligated to ride. Other clubs have riders who fly in just for their meetings. Woryna and Jakobsen at Poole for starters. Its a tactical move by the BV promotion. Simple as that. They call it tactical. I say its cheating. No changes after August 15th. Those are the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r8gdp Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 This is British speedway so who cares about rules lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree34 Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 What a joke with Riss. Jye was progressing great with every match bad blue belle vue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 I think Belle Vue will bring Jye back in as a guest can't they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: I think Belle Vue will bring Jye back in as a guest can't they?? Not allowed to bring back a rider axed in the same season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree34 Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 Mark lemon should be sacked for the stupid decisions he has made this season Riss was sacked from Edinburgh for poor form signed with Ipswich has a couple of good meetings and he is premiership standard. Then goes crap again and now disappears. Not a professional sportsman in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Not allowed to bring back a rider axed in the same season. Correct. And if it was allowed, and I was Jye i'd tell em where to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Riss is under contract and obligated to ride. Other clubs have riders who fly in just for their meetings. Woryna and Jakobsen at Poole for starters. Its a tactical move by the BV promotion. Simple as that. They call it tactical. I say its cheating. No changes after August 15th. Those are the rules. Sounds like someones feeling a bit worried to me....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Sounds like someones feeling a bit worried to me....... Why? We are not meeting them but Kings Lynn are. But I am sure their fans will just roll over and except any explanation / BS from Lemon as gospel. Edited September 14, 2018 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 Feel for the lad and I hope he sorts his ankle and comes back stronger next year. No real adequate cover out there but it’s no loss as our goose was cooked when Dan was injured. Some sort of luck still with us. Having said all this I’m hoping Mark doesn’t do an Andersen and ride abroad whilst claiming to be injured in the UK as that would be cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Fred Flange said: I heard he injured his ankle in a crash (at Ipswich?) and then aggravated it when thrice being a victim of the horror track, which looked like ending his season. He's hardly scored a point since the horror track got him. How sick to laugh at a post about injured riders (yet again), even scb didn't do that→→→→→→↘ He's decided to take a break from the sport after a difficult few weeks that have involved a series of crashes which have knocked his confidence and affected his scoring.This is according to the Ipswich website.So he is not injured just lacking in confidence.So as Daniel Smith say's he is withholding his services.Probably a clever move by Belle Vue,who know's.I'm sure Eric could enlighten the Lynn promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, ouch said: Feel for the lad and I hope he sorts his ankle and comes back stronger next year. No real adequate cover out there but it’s no loss as our goose was cooked when Dan was injured. Some sort of luck still with us. Having said all this I’m hoping Mark doesn’t do an Andersen and ride abroad whilst claiming to be injured in the UK as that would be cheating. There most certainly is cover out there for him at present,especially for the 1st leg which is in September,maybe different for the 2nd leg which is in October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Why? We are not meeting them but Kings Lynn are. But I am sure their fans will just roll over and except any explanation / BS from Lemon as gospel. The 5% rule is only for the 1-5 I have been informed... So no Auty, which is good. He would of been big at the NSS.. But rules are rules and did Riss withhold his services or was he sent packing.. Who knows. I can't see much of an advantage away for BV. But Riss had a home ave of 1.66 Edited September 14, 2018 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Riss is under contract and obligated to ride. Other clubs have riders who fly in just for their meetings. Woryna and Jakobsen at Poole for starters. Its a tactical move by the BV promotion. Simple as that. They call it tactical. I say its cheating. No changes after August 15th. Those are the rules. You must be use to these kind of changes at the business end of the season.Normally you would say it was ok though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Not allowed to bring back a rider axed in the same season. I know he can't sign but I can't find a rule that says he can't be a guest rider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, BLACKHEART said: If this was all down to the Belle Vue management (It isn't) then why has Mark Riss also left Ipswich? if Riss left Belle Vue only and continued to ride for Ipswich then you have a point but he hasn't. Well he couldn't leave one without the other.. Don't know the reason and probably never will.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) I can understand SS assuming this is dastardly plan by Mark Lemon to the play offs from Ford's grasp. As a Poole supporter his first reaction is always to assume that other teams operate as his does. Perfectly understandable when you live in a blue tinted world. The reality is that up to the end of this month we can bring in a guest for Riss with a PL average of 4.48 or CL average of 5.82. and those figures are likely to be lower from 1st October because his scores have suffered since his injury. Just have a look and see the riders that would qualify. I can't see anyone likely to score significantly more than Riss. They might score a few more or a few less, they are those type of riders and I certainly don't see any guaranteed match winners. 14 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Well he couldn't leave one without the other.. Don't know the reason and probably never will.. All any of us know is what is said in the Ipswich press release. We do know he is carrying an injury and that his form has suffered and why would he say what he has said if he has been sacked by both clubs. As I have said above, it's not as if there are guests who will obviously do better. Edited September 14, 2018 by Aces51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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