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 Joe Jacobs achieved a 5.14 average , 

The argument that he wasn't good enough surely ends there ?, well to any normal thinking person .

Sure he was exceptional at NSS ,and struggled away at smaller tracks, but the point is at 24 yrs old  

Surely there was room for improvement ?,

  

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6 minutes ago, topsoil said:

Irrespective of whether his name is Joe Jacobs or Mr X, it is sad to see a young British rider, who has potentially ten years in the sport ahead of him, retire.

The sport needs as many young British riders coming through as possible for the future.

 

Correct , that's the point we're trying to make,   however the Dorset Mafia just pass him off as being crap 

At 24 yrs of age ! 

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5 minutes ago, WestGorton1884 said:

 Joe Jacobs achieved a 5.14 average , 

The argument that he wasn't good enough surely ends there ?, well to any normal thinking person .

Sure he was exceptional at NSS ,and struggled away at smaller tracks, but the point is at 24 yrs old  

Surely there was room for improvement ?,

  

Of course it doesn't end there.

As you say he was brilliant at the NSS but to be frank at some away tracks he beyond struggled and at times looked like he'd never rode a bike before. It's for that reason why I suspect many promoters were reluctant to take him back.

Let's face it, if Belle Vue haven't signed him 2 years running, on a track where he is superb, he's hardly likely to be picked up by others.

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1 hour ago, hyderd said:

care to do his home scores.

Of what relevance are his home scores when he wouldn't be riding for Belle Vue?

There is only one team where it makes any sense whatsoever in signing Jacobs, that is Belle Vue. However, they kicked him into touch.

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25 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Wolves could have signed him as he rode for them a couple of seasons ago. Frankly its disgraceful they didn’t. He is out of a team because Wolves or Belle Vue didn’t offer him a team place. A disgrace!

And to think Wolves could have given a spot to Jacobs instead of Jonny Foreigner Heeps. Talk about wolves not looking after British riders!

Priceless

Howarth, Ellis, Newman anybody to name but 3

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21 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Wolves could have signed him as he rode for them a couple of seasons ago. Frankly its disgraceful they didn’t. He is out of a team because Wolves or Belle Vue didn’t offer him a team place. A disgrace!

And to think Wolves could have given a spot to Jacobs instead of Jonny Foreigner Heeps. Talk about wolves not looking after British riders!

It nearly makes us as bad as Poole, how dreadful.

Still, 3 Brits at Wolves again this season.  

You can rely on Poole to not do their bit, as per usual. 

You can see why Howarth and Adam wanted out.

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1 minute ago, BWitcher said:

Of course it doesn't end there.

As you say he was brilliant at the NSS but to be frank at some away tracks he beyond struggled and at times looked like he'd never rode a bike before. It's for that reason why I suspect many promoters were reluctant to take him back.

Let's face it, if Belle Vue haven't signed him 2 years running, on a track where he is superb, he's hardly likely to be picked up by others.

Agree , the fact is , his average of 5.14 meant it was hard to justify a team place in 2017 ,

I think the main point is , its another young British rider seemingly lost to sport,   

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2 hours ago, Matt Ford Fan said:

I am agreeing to the post in general about British riders not being able to get team places. Not just reserves.

Jacobs wouldn't get a team place period because he isn't good enough. Simple as that really.

Morris & Greaves are much better. Ayres & Morley are better. 

Davey only has a place at Swindon because they ran out of points to play with otherwise he would have been left without a job. 

Jacobs isn't good enough and Promoters know it. Otherwise he would be offered team places when the team building starts not half way through the season when riders get injured. 

Morris ,Greaves , Ayres much better are you on something ???? that  statement shows us all that you cannot watch much Speedway.

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33 minutes ago, WestGorton1884 said:

Agree , the fact is , his average of 5.14 meant it was hard to justify a team place in 2017 ,

I think the main point is , its another young British rider seemingly lost to sport,   

Agreed and its a huge shame for the lad 

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It was a great shame that the BSPA cut the points limit right back after we topped the league. I’m just please we managed to replaced our outgoing British reserves with two more Brits. 

I was looking forward to Joe returning this year but once it was clear he couldn’t make it pay without a CL place and none made an offer the chance was gone. 

It needs more teams to back the Brits to make it work. It’s a shame we don’t own a CL club. 

Best of luck Joe. 

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1 hour ago, WestGorton1884 said:

Correct , that's the point we're trying to make,   however the Dorset Mafia just pass him off as being crap 

At 24 yrs of age ! 

No. The Belle Vue promotion have passed him off. They could have had him in the team instead of Drodz. But they didn’t. 

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13 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

No. The Belle Vue promotion have passed him off. They could have had him in the team instead of Drodz. But they didn’t. 

I understand it isn't easy for those who have difficulty grasping facts but as Jacobs has said he needs to double up to continue racing it follows that Belle Vue couldn't have had him instead of Drozdz unless he was also offered a CL team slot.

My opinion is that the culprits here are the BSPA who have abandoned the two Brits per team rule. They should've instead implemented it in both the PL and CL instead of encouraging teams to sign more foreign riders. That wouldn't necessarily guarantee Jacobs a team place but certainly helps British riders to get places and to progress.

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35 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

No. The Belle Vue promotion have passed him off. They could have had him in the team instead of Drodz. But they didn’t. 

Ditto Poole could have had Perks instead of Szczpaniak, but they didn't.  Poole have passed him off too.

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12 minutes ago, Aces51 said:

I understand it isn't easy for those who have difficulty grasping facts but as Jacobs has said he needs to double up to continue racing it follows that Belle Vue couldn't have had him instead of Drozdz unless he was also offered a CL team slot.

My opinion is that the culprits here are the BSPA who have abandoned the two Brits per team rule. They should've instead implemented it in both the PL and CL instead of encouraging teams to sign more foreign riders. That wouldn't necessarily guarantee Jacobs a team place but certainly helps British riders to get places and to progress.

Always an excuse. You didn't use him last year or this. He rode out of his skin for the Aces and you've effectively ended his career.

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