Phil The Ace Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, Islander15 said: Would Drozdz be 5.00 though? I have it on good authority he is a 5. Personally think he should be 4 or 4.5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: I have it on good authority he is a 5. Personally think he should be 4 or 4.5 So if over 200 on the list are on a 4 that puts Drodz as ranked inside the worlds top 50 Id say your assessment is more accurate Phil.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) Not just because its my team but if Drodz is assessed at 5 and Woryna and Szczpaniak who in Poland are both better riders are allowed keep their old averages. Which for both is lower than Drodz. Even though they have both improved since they last rode here and both have had a stint riding on British tracks and have more idea about what to expect set ups,different shale etc. Then I have to ask has the person working out riders averages got any common sense at all. All any of us fans want is fair play for all. Edited January 6, 2018 by B.V 72 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, B.V 72 said: Not just because its my team but if Drodz is assessed at 5 and Woryna and Szczpaniak who in Poland are both better riders are allowed keep their old averages. Which for both is lower than Drodz. Even though they have both improved since they last rode here and both have had a stint riding on British tracks and have more idea about what to expect set ups,different shale etc. Then I have to ask has the person working out riders averages got any common sense at all. All any of us fans want is fair play for all. Drodz is new so 5.0 seems right. Don’t think he’s a 6. Poole’s 2 poles both have official averages. If Poole wanted Drodz do you think we would be able to get him on a 4? Of course not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: If Poole wanted Drodz do you think we would be able to get him on a 4? Of course not. If anyone other than Poole wanted Woryna and Szczpaniak do you think they'd be allowed to get them on less than the 5.00 of similar (or weaker) Poles like Drozdz? Of course not. Edited January 6, 2018 by WalterPlinge 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Drodz is new so 5.0 seems right. Don’t think he’s a 6. Poole’s 2 poles both have official averages. If Poole wanted Drodz do you think we would be able to get him on a 4? Of course not. Did not have a go at Poole.Just said the person working out the averages has no common sense.If you think that 2 better riders should have a lower average then you are in the same boat. Drodz going off the better Poles averages should imo have been assessed at 4 no matter what team he rides for 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 There is no conspiracy theory although some on here actually believe that is the case. The two poles Poole signed were available to all clubs. Whether the other clubs could have put together a package to attract them is another matter. Drodz could well turn out to be a sensational signing, adapting to British tracks better than our two Poles. Different country, different track, and Drodz might instantly settle in the big wide open spaces of NSS, which is similar to Polish tracks. And of course he will probably take one look at Monmore and ask where the real speedway track is! If Drodz clicks and scores a bucketload of points and people moan, you can say he was there for any club to pick up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: There is no conspiracy theory although some on here actually believe that is the case. The two poles Poole signed were available to all clubs. Whether the other clubs could have put together a package to attract them is another matter. Drodz could well turn out to be a sensational signing, adapting to British tracks better than our two Poles. Different country, different track, and Drodz might instantly settle in the big wide open spaces of NSS, which is similar to Polish tracks. And of course he will probably take one look at Monmore and ask where the real speedway track is! If Drodz clicks and scores a bucketload of points and people moan, you can say he was there for any club to pick up. No pressure then SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 It’s not about having a go at Poole, it’s more about what Belle Vue have to contend with. Drozdz would be four anywhere else, no question. The only good thing to come out of this is a list has now been produced though not available to fans. We were too far down the road with Drozdz and this was known to the list compiler but we’re still hopeful of a correct assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: There is no conspiracy theory although some on here actually believe that is the case. The two poles Poole signed were available to all clubs. Whether the other clubs could have put together a package to attract them is another matter. Drodz could well turn out to be a sensational signing, adapting to British tracks better than our two Poles. Different country, different track, and Drodz might instantly settle in the big wide open spaces of NSS, which is similar to Polish tracks. And of course he will probably take one look at Monmore and ask where the real speedway track is! If Drodz clicks and scores a bucketload of points and people moan, you can say he was there for any club to pick up. Or he could take one look at Monmore and think... I'm a really skilful rider and just like Piotr I have the ability to ride this well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Red Flag said: Or he could take one look at Monmore and think... I'm a really skilful rider and just like Piotr I have the ability to ride this well He's rode wolves before when tai was there. On his own mind u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Poole’s 2 poles both have official averages. If Poole wanted Drodz do you think we would be able to get him on a 4? Of course not. They have old averages.And Woryna's old 4.something ave seems a bit of a joke considering how he is riding and who he's beating now. Spanners ave is about 4 years old? and he seems to have improved and they have put his ave down I think ! I'm not getting at Poole if these riders could have signed for any team on those ave's,Im guessing Lebedevs could be had on his old 4.something average too.Bargain of the season? Edited January 6, 2018 by Bald Bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: He's rode wolves before when tai was there. On his own mind u Didn't know that, if your good you can ride it,if your a throttle jockey you can't simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckettlion Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: They have old averages.And Woryna's old 4.something ave seems a bit of a joke considering how he is riding and who he's beating now. Spanners ave is about 4 years old? and he seems to have improved and they have put his ave down I think ! I'm not getting at Poole if these riders could have signed for any team on those ave's,Im guessing Lebedevs could be had on his old 4.something average too.Bargain of the season? Lions had Lebedevs signed up initially last season (before him and Wolbert made way for King and Bates). His average had been assessed to 7.00 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, beckettlion said: Lions had Lebedevs signed up initially last season (before him and Wolbert made way for King and Bates). His average had been assessed to 7.00 then But he didnt ride so it didnt come in to force He has an established average from his last stint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 23 minutes ago, beckettlion said: Lions had Lebedevs signed up initially last season (before him and Wolbert made way for King and Bates). His average had been assessed to 7.00 then His average then was subject to the increase all riders without a CL average had imposed on them. This was removed later in the season. From what we have been told he isn’t now a 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 8 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: So if over 200 on the list are on a 4 that puts Drodz as ranked inside the worlds top 50 Id say your assessment is more accurate Phil.... TBF, he finished 42 in the Polish league averages. What 8 riders didn't ride in Poland that you would say are top 50 in the World to knock him out of the top 50? Bearing in mind you also have to replace any top 50 riders who already have Premiership averages (like Lindgren, Doyle etc). I'd suggest he should be higher than 4, 5 seems more than fair. He averaged the same as Przedpełski who is a 7 and not a lot less than Thorssell who is 8.5! He got more than Musliak who is about 7.5 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOpinion Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Cook Worrall Tungate Drozdz Fricke Bewley Jacobs Perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Cook Fricke Tungate Drozdz Worrall Bewley Etheridge That's the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 Hope not tbh. 1 - 6 is good. Prefer Joe Jacobs over Etheridge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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