stevebrum Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Tinted glasses if you pause it just before contact Freddie leans over and has locked up right in front of Kenny leaving him no where to go. I would go as far to say Freddies bike was facing the centre green.Have a look again. I've watched it several times on broadcast. And was of the same opinion each time. 50/50. I've no wish to keep watching a crash that finished the season for a rider thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) I've watched it several times on broadcast. And was of the same opinion each time. 50/50. I've no wish to keep watching a crash that finished the season for a rider thank you very much. Best wishes to Freddie. But as a Wolves fan I can now see that you cannot have any other opinion than to call it as 50/50.Because if with the help of dvd footage you agreed with alot of fans that the wrong rider was excluded then you would have to admit that a referee's mistake more than likely sent the wrong team through to the final. Only my opinion but as we know these can differ. Edited October 7, 2017 by B.V 72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Best wishes to Freddie. But as a Wolves fan I can now see that you cannot have any other opinion than to call it as 50/50.Because if with the help of dvd footage you agreed with alot of fans that the wrong rider was excluded then you would have to admit that a referee's mistake more than likely sent the wrong team through to the final. Only my opinion but as we know these can differ. It isn't an opinion based on a team I support. That's quite a silly thing to suggest.I get that others, including Aces fans, suggest that it was the wrong decision. I don't have to disagree with that, it's just my own opinion. It's an opinion based on what I saw. I watched the Fricke crash on BT tonight, repeated several times and again another I don't wish to watch again. He wasn't in the wrong each time I watched it yet I got why he was excluded as it would have been wrong to exclude either 2 riders who were also involved in the incident. Yet Max did nothing wrong. It was a coming together and a racing incident. Same as the Freddie/Bjerre, a coming together and a 50/50 decision. Either would be unlucky to have been excluded. And of course I hope Max recovers well and is fit for the final GP. Edited October 7, 2017 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Deleted Edited October 8, 2017 by AlanF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Shovlar Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) As a complete neutral with no rose tinted glasses for either team, and having watched the video footage, Lindgren was to blame 100%. Its impossible to come to any other conclusion. The ref got it badly wrong. Edited October 8, 2017 by Steve Shovlar 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 In fairness to the ref he had to make a instant decision based on what he saw and made an honest mistake. I have seen it too Freddie had the beating of Bjerre so no real need to cut across at the point in the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 I have no doubt at all that it was an honest mistake by the referee. What was so shocking was that I and many others in the stadium saw and said at the time what is now confirmed by the video. It wasn't even a difficult decision to get right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 As a footnote to this crash. Was this the most expensive mistake made by a referee this year and maybe going back for some time? It almost certainly cost us a place in the final, which we may have won and the revenue lost to the club, with a likely crowd of at least 3500 at the NSS. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Yep. Imagine if the 3 ride ref cock up had cost another final in the KO Cup. Add in gogglegate and you have to question why these costly ref errors always happen to us? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 The side i feel has just become a tad stale and could do with a freshening up, but please no C Holder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 2017 had 4 changes from the previous season so not sure you can call it "stale"? And not sure you could call the form of bjerre or any of the Brits stake either? Team composition will be dependent on the points limit - if it goes to 12 teams I'd imagine it would have to be around 40? Unless someone who rides the NSS well is available on a bargain average (holder, kK?) then I'd imagine just 1 or 2 changes needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 The side i feel has just become a tad stale and could do with a freshening up, but please no C Holder. 100% agree with the bit about Holder, hopefully he won't be anywhere near a British team next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 1. Cook 2. Hougaard 3. Holder/Woffinden 4. Tungate 5. Zagar/Fricke 6. Bewley 7. Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Is S Worell out of favour, seems most predictions dont mention him ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Is S Worell out of favour, seems most predictions dont mention him ??? I don't think he is out of favour I for one would love to see him back but he has an average that is hard to fit into a team that needs weakening.Everyone at the momment is building teams to a 42 point limit so his average to me is a little to high for a second string and a little to low for a heat leader.With a 42 points limit you can still fit in 3 heat leaders. If the team average drops to 40 I think he will then be named in a lot more fans team ideas.As with a 40 point limit it will be a lot harder to fit in 3 heat leaders.He could then be named as the 3rd heat leader to keep a stronger lower order. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted October 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Would anyone know what Zagar's average would be set at ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Would anyone know what Zagar's average would be set at ?I'd say that depends who he is signing for....Though Poole fans seem to think Woryna will come in on his old EL average so Zagar should be the same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Can BV afford the likes of Zagar if, as the rumour I heard, he was on £5k a meeting???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Is S Worell out of favour, seems most predictions dont mention him ??? It's the dammed numbers game. I feel bad enough just typing a team without him, what it's actually like telling these riders to their face that they don't have a team place must be hell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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