ytsejam Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Well what a big non event this is going to be now that Wolves are so weak. Such a shame really as it would have been an exciting two legs if both teams had full sides to choose from. Just have to hope for some good racing in a few heats and that the shouty twins don't embarrass themselves even more than normal with their shouting and over "bigging up" of the racing and the situation. I think the former one of those two "hopes" is the most likely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 This is Swindon's title to lose without a doubt. On paper the score could be something like:  Swindon 54 - 36 Wolves Wolves 48 - 42 Swindon  So, it should be a comfortable enough win for Swindon in theory. A shame that it isn't 2 full strength teams, I really think we would have a good chance if that was the case and it would be a close encounter which would go down to the last heat or so.   P.S - Can we have Nick Morris guest for us in the KO Cup semi final & final please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 If wolves can the lead down to 10 they may have a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted October 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) I think with a bit of luck it could still be in the balance for the Wolves leg of the final. That's got to be the hope. If only to make wednesday an interesting spectacle for a few heats Edited October 2, 2017 by Wolfsbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 This is obviously completely hypothetical as it hasn't and won't happen, but... Â How would Swindon fans have felt if Wolverhampton had been 'special dispensation' to track Tai Woffinden in place of Lindgren in a circumstance such as this? Â Normally I would be against such a thing and I have no qualms at all about Wolves using a guest and R/R as those are the rules, but would it have made the Grand Final more of an event if a team could have used one of it's own assets rather than a guest? I would have no issue with this - although as has been pointed out it is not currently permitted in the rules. Losing one rider would be bad enough but to lose the top 2 certainly doesn't seem like a fair match-up - but that's not Swindon's fault. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 That's got to be the hope. If only to make wednesday an interesting spectacle for a few heats  Absolutely no chance, it's all over after tonight's first leg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Last meeting at The Abbey it was Swindon 52 Wolves 40, Doyle paid max. 11+1, he didn't come out for heat 15, Ellis 8, Muesli 10 +1, Bellego 4, Morra 12+1, Aarnio 5+1, Bowtell 2+1. Lindgren 10+1, only 1 heat win, Worrall 7+1, Schlein r/r, Thorsell 9+1, only 1 heat win, Masters 8, Riss 4+2, Greaves 2. Wolves have to hope Schleiny wins some races, and Swindon have a few falls and e.f.s otherwise will be a massacre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialOne Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Â Â sorry RF. Completely forgot about no use of tacticals! Amended to 55-35 Â Â Mon the Robins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Cmon Wolves! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Â Absolutely no chance, it's all over after tonight's first leg. There is always a chance, don't lose all hope before it has started, look at the Poole meeting, they were self destructing until they got it together at the end. If BWD reproduces his Peterborough form and not his Swindon form it could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Always get a kick from a disappointed Rosco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Â What does it matter whether Swindon topped the league by 1 pt or 10? They still finished first, and now have to go through the formality of beating Wolves. Â Canterbury and Newcastle once ended the year level, and it went to race pts to separate them. Â Still, with Sheffield topping the Championship table and winning, and Swindon looking nailed on to do likewise at least it shows up the play-offs as the waste of time they are. Â ...and don't get me started on this promotion/relegation bollox. Â Try reading the post I was replying too. Â In addition, the one thing some people seemingly fail to grasp every time is, if there were no play-offs we don't know for sure Swindon would have finished top. Everything can pan out very differently, there are different pressures involved and the results may not be the same. Â Yes, complete waste of time Ipswich getting at least 4500 fans in for their playoff match with Sheffield. Â As for tonight, I travel with a tiny bit of hope and zero expectation. If we are within 20 after this leg I will be very surprised. Not only are we missing Lindgren and Thorsell but Masters is riding well below par, whether it's injury or engines not up to speed. As long as they give their all that's all Wolves fans can ask for and 'if' they can perform the heroics to keep it relatively close who knows on Wednesday. Edited October 2, 2017 by BWitcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef robin Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 A few showers forecast for later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 A few showers forecast for later. At least we will turn them on, unlike Poole 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 18-20 point win for Swindon tonight followed by a 4-6 point Swindon win on Wednesday. Â Injuries have rendered the final a complete non event sad to say. What a shame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Robin Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Always get a kick from a disappointed Rosco SAD !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Â Try reading the post I was replying too. Â In addition, the one thing some people seemingly fail to grasp every time is, if there were no play-offs we don't know for sure Swindon would have finished top. Everything can pan out very differently, there are different pressures involved and the results may not be the same. Â Yes, complete waste of time Ipswich getting at least 4500 fans in for their playoff match with Sheffield. Â As for tonight, I travel with a tiny bit of hope and zero expectation. If we are within 20 after this leg I will be very surprised. Not only are we missing Lindgren and Thorsell but Masters is riding well below par, whether it's injury or engines not up to speed. As long as they give their all that's all Wolves fans can ask for and 'if' they can perform the heroics to keep it relatively close who knows on Wednesday. Â Probably the fans who decided to wait until the playoffs once it was clear the Witches were in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Â Probably the fans who decided to wait until the playoffs once it was clear the Witches were in them. Â Ah, ok, so they were getting 4500 earlier in the year were they, then they stopped going to 'wait' till they were in the playoffs.. Â I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Â Probably the fans who decided to wait until the playoffs once it was clear the Witches were in them. Â More likely, the various fans who go to various meetings throughout the season, rather than every week, all deciding to go to this one particular meeting. Â I don't go every week. Maybe 3 or 4 meetings throughout the season. I shall be going to tonight's play-off meeting. Were there no play-offs, I would still be going to 3 or 4 meetings throughout the season. Â Although there are many people who go every week, it's not going to be the exact same people in the stadium for every match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I would have no issue with this - although as has been pointed out it is not currently permitted in the rules. Losing one rider would be bad enough but to lose the top 2 certainly doesn't seem like a fair match-up - but that's not Swindon's fault. Â Didn't Lakeside have their top 2 missing in a final, making the 2nd leg an anti climax, for obvious season ending Injuries some sort of rule needs to be Implemented, using your own asset seems fair, so long as averages allow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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