GS550 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 You say that but did they!!..... We've seen how different spectators at the same event witnessing the same Nicholls/Greaves incident saw the facts totally differently..... Think you'll find if you apply "Duckworth-Lewis" or conversely if you apply "Stableford" you will probably get a different result. .....and Ippo sneaked it. ok I'll get me coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I think if it's rephrased everyone would agree Nicholas did not deliberately fence greaves I don't think that was his intention but he used his experience to put a more less experienced rider into a pressurised situation but got it wrong and it was unfortunate that Nathan ended up on his bottom and excluded Every rider no matter how experienced can make a mistake, but at least it got the crowd going, for a moment I thought I was at an MMA event 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I've always felt that the tractor that parks alongside the back straight is in a very dangerous place. If a rider loses it coming out of turn 2 and heads towards the centre green it could have dire consequences. Having said that, unless they change the grading gear I assume the tractor couldn't be parked on the car track with the breakdown trucks. Ask Chris Louis, who had his career ended by avoiding an 'out of control' Lewis Bridger and running into said dire consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Ask Chris Louis, who had his career ended by avoiding an 'out of control' Lewis Bridger and running into said dire consequences. Which you would have thought they would have been moved by now..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) I've always felt that the tractor that parks alongside the back straight is in a very dangerous place. If a rider loses it coming out of turn 2 and heads towards the centre green it could have dire consequences. Having said that, unless they change the grading gear I assume the tractor couldn't be parked on the car track with the breakdown trucks. I didn't think you were allowed to have any machinery on the centre green. In saying that, I was at Worky a few weeks ago and they had sponsors sale cars on the first/second bend centre green. Edited October 2, 2017 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 As a neutral who was in the"grandstand" The lighting other than on the home straight was so poor it was difficult to see the incident. Doubt it would have made any difference to the result anyway. Again as a neutral my view on the meeting was boring, boring ,boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 As a neutral who was in the"grandstand" The lighting other than on the home straight was so poor it was difficult to see the incident. Doubt it would have made any difference to the result anyway. Again as a neutral my view on the meeting was boring, boring ,boring. and, prey tell, why was the meeting boring, boring,boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Racing wasn't actually that good to be fair so he has a point maybe boring boring as opposed to boring boring boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 and, prey tell, why was the meeting boring, boring,boring I am on my knees preying, I thought as did those with me it was boring as It seemed to us neither team showed any real desire to win and looked as they were merely going through the motions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 wasn't boring from our lads point of view, would it have been double boring if in fact ipswich had won! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 As a neutral who was in the"grandstand" The lighting other than on the home straight was so poor it was difficult to see the incident. Doubt it would have made any difference to the result anyway. Again as a neutral my view on the meeting was boring, boring ,boring. What did you expect?? Some races were strung out and there's always the issue of top boys way ahead of wobblers but the suspense and drama of the meeting kept me captivated. There was also a decent amount of close racing and passing - I especially liked the playing to the crowd in Ht 13 when Nicholls was passed and then got back by both King and Schlein turning his head to look at them on several occasions, a pantomime villain indeed. For Ipswich, Newman's crash ended it for them but Heeps was the star of the show. King was a bit one line only and should have done better, same with Schlein but hey, they were the league leaders for a reason. Wonder if CL has emerged from his counting house yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 maybe from a racing point of view the champs weren't going to take any unnecessary risks and end up on their backsides so really it was up to the witches to make a fight of it and apart from keeps who did, you were let down quite badly especially from your number 1 and 5.fair play you gave it a shot, but even i though that it would have been a lot closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 wasn't boring from our lads point of view, would it have been double boring if in fact ipswich had won! I found it boring others did not end of!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 a fabulous atmosphere and night though at a very welcoming foxhall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Unfortunately and i really don't know why, the racing can often be a bit follow my leader at foxhall. There are some good races and some strung out ones, just compared to some tracks not enough good ones. I've also been to nearly every track and must say at some I've seen much worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I found it boring others did not end of!! so,as a neutral, which team do you support? Unfortunately and i really don't know why, the racing can often be a bit follow my leader at foxhall. There are some good races and some strung out ones, just compared to some tracks not enough good ones. I've also been to nearly every track and must say at some I've seen much worse. totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I think someone said weeks ago that maybe premiership racing will suit Foxhall better in terms of racing as it's only ever so slightly a higher calibre of rider in the field? For me I'd like to see it to test that theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 To be fair, Greaves bike did hit the fence once he had gone down and done a sumersault down the straight after turning his front wheel left onto Nicholls back wheel - thus resulting in him falling off and it being his own fault, which is why he was rightfully excluded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 To be fair greaves did hit the fence after Scott took greaves front wheel away after he flicked his back wheel into greaves when he hadn't fully passed him. Just a very miss timed attempt at intimidation by Scott nothing malicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo34 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 They must be blind and deaf then??? Well, we know the answer to that one. Yes he'll make a good referee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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