jenga Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 8 hours ago, proud panther said: It's an opinion, what people are allowed to have on a forum. please remember that when I post on the Peterborough forum on the B.S.F. thank you . J 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: from the top of Chilly rd. it would seem the long way round to go via Grace st. when surely it would be quicker to cut thru the bus depot onto the Fosse then your there Now I am confused as the bus depot is next to Aldi on “old shields road” and if I cut through I will end up at Walkergate metro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond geezer Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 What shocks me is that, almost the best 5 point rider available, BWD, doesn’t have a club in the championship, yet we have a spare 1.4 points............ I wouldn’t swap the likes of Ashley, but Carl and Matthew need to stand up as that kid could be a 7 pointer...... promotion and riders need to step up to their averages... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, Diamond geezer said: What shocks me is that, almost the best 5 point rider available, BWD, doesn’t have a club in the championship, yet we have a spare 1.4 points............ I wouldn’t swap the likes of Ashley, but Carl and Matthew need to stand up as that kid could be a 7 pointer...... promotion and riders need to step up to their averages... Trouble is Kiwi's have never gone well around Brough...... One can only presume he's been asked and, like many others, decided not to. Must've been on more than the Diamonds radar (doesn't seem to have a Polish team). Like you say he's odds on to add 2 points to his CL average this season. I Think he even had a PL maximum last season. First Kiwi to do so since one.... Mark Thorpe is what SS reported. Almost exactly the same average as Wethers but I suspect heading in opposite directions in terms of points and geography. You can't force these boys to sign if you can't afford to make it worth their while and the reduced CL schedule probably doesn't help either. Crazy this year not to have a new foreign rider on 5.20. As I understand it the assessed averages (normally 7.00) were set so low to actively encourage this approach. Fredrik Jacobsen looked full of potential at Belle Vue on Friday. Easily looked like a 6-7 point CL rider. Again probably too expensive. Nevermind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, KEITH M said: Now I am confused as the bus depot is next to Aldi on “old shields road” and if I cut through I will end up at Walkergate metro A mean the PTE depot and surely you mean Lidl ???,,, anyway, who would wanna get off the metro at Chilly rd. to then walk to Walkergate metro, that would be nuts if you adk me,,, although I do accept that you might be easily confused Edited March 27, 2018 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Looking at the Newcastle team, I don't think it's as bad as some are making out! Will always have 2 good reserves at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Interesting that the Diamonds have been in contact with Jesper and Erik Gundersen to bring over some young Danes to fit in the team this year and George has not ruled out the possibility of bring them over during the season. I'm also intrigued to know who the rider is who turned them down after they had specified the terms and then turned the deal down!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 21 hours ago, Diamond geezer said: What shocks me is that, almost the best 5 point rider available, BWD, doesn’t have a club in the championship, yet we have a spare 1.4 points............ I wouldn’t swap the likes of Ashley, but Carl and Matthew need to stand up as that kid could be a 7 pointer...... promotion and riders need to step up to their averages... BWD couldn't be bothered to ride for Panthers towards the end of the season, & is now paying the price for his actions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 27/3/2018 at 1:29 AM, enotian said: Trouble is Kiwi's have never gone well around Brough...... One can only presume he's been asked and, like many others, decided not to. Must've been on more than the Diamonds radar (doesn't seem to have a Polish team). Like you say he's odds on to add 2 points to his CL average this season. I Think he even had a PL maximum last season. First Kiwi to do so since one.... Mark Thorpe is what SS reported. Almost exactly the same average as Wethers but I suspect heading in opposite directions in terms of points and geography. You can't force these boys to sign if you can't afford to make it worth their while and the reduced CL schedule probably doesn't help either. Crazy this year not to have a new foreign rider on 5.20. As I understand it the assessed averages (normally 7.00) were set so low to actively encourage this approach. Fredrik Jacobsen looked full of potential at Belle Vue on Friday. Easily looked like a 6-7 point CL rider. Again probably too expensive. Nevermind. David Bargh always went well around brough and was one of my favourite riders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, soupy said: David Bargh always went well around brough and was one of my favourite riders His inside passes on 3/4 were a joy to watch, thorpy was lucky to finish a lap when he first came over, but went away and came back a completely different rider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond@heart Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, soupy said: David Bargh always went well around brough and was one of my favourite riders 58 minutes ago, andys said: His inside passes on 3/4 were a joy to watch, thorpy was lucky to finish a lap when he first came over, but went away and came back a completely different rider The good old Bargh and Thorpe days which were then replaced with the Thorpe and Thorp days!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 27/03/2018 at 1:29 AM, enotian said: Trouble is Kiwi's have never gone well around Brough...... One can only presume he's been asked and, like many others, decided not to. Must've been on more than the Diamonds radar (doesn't seem to have a Polish team). Like you say he's odds on to add 2 points to his CL average this season. I Think he even had a PL maximum last season. First Kiwi to do so since one.... Mark Thorpe is what SS reported. Almost exactly the same average as Wethers but I suspect heading in opposite directions in terms of points and geography. You can't force these boys to sign if you can't afford to make it worth their while and the reduced CL schedule probably doesn't help either. Crazy this year not to have a new foreign rider on 5.20. As I understand it the assessed averages (normally 7.00) were set so low to actively encourage this approach. Fredrik Jacobsen looked full of potential at Belle Vue on Friday. Easily looked like a 6-7 point CL rider. Again probably too expensive. Nevermind. Really??? I can still remember Ivan Mauger. He didn't do too bad around Brough. As someone else stated - David Bargh too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, The White Knight said: Really??? I can still remember Ivan Mauger. He didn't do too bad around Brough. As someone else stated - David Bargh too. whoooosssshhh one was being sarcastic, considering the Diamonds rich history of riders from New Zealand and his apparent availability BWD should have been a shoe in for a team place. I made reference to including him in the 2018 line up pre Christmas thinking we'd be going for a strength in depth team rather than an under strength team perhaps I selected the incorrect emoji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 sarcasm and irony are difficult in writing - we need a sarky emoticon or am i being sarky saying that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, enotian said: whoooosssshhh one was being sarcastic, considering the Diamonds rich history of riders from New Zealand and his apparent availability BWD should have been a shoe in for a team place. I made reference to including him in the 2018 line up pre Christmas thinking we'd be going for a strength in depth team rather than an under strength team perhaps I selected the incorrect emoji The fact this needed explaining and I thought the naming of the 1 to 7 was a new low for the Greyhounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 27/03/2018 at 12:42 AM, Diamond geezer said: What shocks me is that, almost the best 5 point rider available, BWD, doesn’t have a club in the championship, yet we have a spare 1.4 points............ I wouldn’t swap the likes of Ashley, but Carl and Matthew need to stand up as that kid could be a 7 pointer...... promotion and riders need to step up to their averages... How do you know he wasn't approached. i would suspect he hopes to be poland bound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond geezer Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 15 hours ago, leander said: How do you know he wasn't approached. i would suspect he hopes to be poland bound. Because I doubt a rider would pass up a season of racing in England on a Sunday when he is already riding premier on a Monday, not for a chance at Poland when all polish squads are full, and even when not most riders won’t get a ride. i suspect, like most riders we couldn’t afford him, which strikes me as a little odd for 2 reasons.. 1) our sponsors could afford to buy a riders contract who we are not using (despite the fact I am sure Danny wouldn’t cost much, I am sure whatever money was spent could have been better used to pay more for a rider who would be a #1 or would put points on his average, be it BWD or simply to pay extra to fly Eddie kennett up every week so travel wasn’t an issue) 2) we paid a tidy sum of money two seasons ago for matej kus who we only used for one season... the rules state I think that if another team want to add them to their line up then a club can demand a transfer fee (Redcar did and we paid). We could have demanded the same in return surely to Redcar and as above could have filled out extra money on a rider either as a #1 or someone who will add points to his average again like a previous post I made, the inhibiter being Poland feels like a bit of a smokescreen, as whilst I am sure 90% of riders are riding over there which makes team selection difficult, it’s the fact that the remaining 10% (with the exception of our 7) still choose to not ride for us Which is the biggest cause for concern...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Diamond geezer said: Because I doubt a rider would pass up a season of racing in England on a Sunday when he is already riding premier on a Monday, not for a chance at Poland when all polish squads are full, and even when not most riders won’t get a ride. i suspect, like most riders we couldn’t afford him, which strikes me as a little odd for 2 reasons.. 1) our sponsors could afford to buy a riders contract who we are not using (despite the fact I am sure Danny wouldn’t cost much, I am sure whatever money was spent could have been better used to pay more for a rider who would be a #1 or would put points on his average, be it BWD or simply to pay extra to fly Eddie kennett up every week so travel wasn’t an issue) 2) we paid a tidy sum of money two seasons ago for matej kus who we only used for one season... the rules state I think that if another team want to add them to their line up then a club can demand a transfer fee (Redcar did and we paid). We could have demanded the same in return surely to Redcar and as above could have filled out extra money on a rider either as a #1 or someone who will add points to his average again like a previous post I made, the inhibiter being Poland feels like a bit of a smokescreen, as whilst I am sure 90% of riders are riding over there which makes team selection difficult, it’s the fact that the remaining 10% (with the exception of our 7) still choose to not ride for us Which is the biggest cause for concern...... Don't forget we will be getting loan fees for both Danny and Matty. We are not using Danny, because the way they wanted to build the team (ie no out and out number one, but "strength in depth"). If we'd gone down the number one route, I'm pretty sure Danny would have been used. If we had "demanded" a transfer fee for Matej, maybe (and I am only guessing) Redcar (or anyone else) didn't want to pay that, so, rather than have him out of British Speedway, it was better to loan him out and get a loan fee in, rather than have an asset on the books doing nothing for anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond geezer Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, StevePark said: Don't forget we will be getting loan fees for both Danny and Matty. We are not using Danny, because the way they wanted to build the team (ie no out and out number one, but "strength in depth"). If we'd gone down the number one route, I'm pretty sure Danny would have been used. If we had "demanded" a transfer fee for Matej, maybe (and I am only guessing) Redcar (or anyone else) didn't want to pay that, so, rather than have him out of British Speedway, it was better to loan him out and get a loan fee in, rather than have an asset on the books doing nothing for anybody. Yes I am sure we do get loan fees, again however it doesn’t explain how that money could have been put to better use. If signing riders is more beneficial why did we never sign Steve and Richie when we had the chance, or for that matter every other rider that’s available? We could have over a hundred riders on our books and get loan fees for all if that were the case... My point is, when we claim we don’t have money, and struggling to pay anywhere near decent money for a rider at any average why use what little money to buy a rider not in our plans? also, we never said we set the team out without a number one rider, we don’t have one because we couldn’t get one. Even two weeks ago george was trying to get Eddie kennett who is a number one, weeks before that he said he had an 8pointer ready who he was talking too before the doubling down rule changes, again a number one. we have set our stall out this year to have strong reserves because of last year, even on averages berwick have stronger ones and they have a better number one. There is an argument that Redcar even have a better 6+7, as Theo pjiper especially is on a hugely artificial average and they have a number one and a number 5 stronger than our number one on the majority of tracks! Not even starting with the new Dane who in most quarters is tipped to be a top rider... I don’t want to get down on the team, I will support our lads no matter what and wish all of them well for the season ahead, any rider who gets out on track for us spectators deserves a whole lot of credit. I genuinely hope to be proved wrong, but I am not surprised we are listed as bottom of both the pundits and the fans piece in the star. I quite like being underdogs however and hope to prove a few people wrong, but to do so it will take a few people to step up. No concerns with Stuart Lewis or Ashley, ludvig needs to step up big time away from home, and here is hoping Mathew, Carl and Tero can blossom at the tail end of their careers a top club. But to leave on a sour note, even if one of the 7 has a fantastic year and puts 1.5 points on there starting average it only brings us upto the starting average most teams are currently on.......think that’s really puts things into perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 What price is it for an Adult at the turnstiles for admission as it is £16 online now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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