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That message I meant to send over a week ago. I still feel the same... I however am more concerned than ever as to how in prepared we are.

i know Alan walking away has cost us (I remember an away supporter telling us graphically about it last season, during the season).. but..... we still had plenty of time to sort it out...

i am sure many fans who comment on here act on the offensive, as do fans on the defensive, many if not all have the future of speedway at the heart, and I for one have lived and breathed it since I was 1 year old, as do my kids today.

 

the biggest dissapointment is the realisation, not just how much we were forewarned of a poor year,  and the need to consolidate for the future, the only step needed to make newcastle speedway survive is to move away from brough Park. 

I am sure all the corporate followers will stand up and say it’s not possible, or they have tried. But the only mistake they have made is not making it happen..

Just for reference, I have sat through the following changes in my 30 years at tracks just in the north, Just in our league

2x smoggies (Cleveland park + current)

2x monarchs (Powderhall + Current)

2x glasgow (Shawfield + Current)

2x berwick ( Berrington lough, current)

1x  berwick training track which they building

1x Glasgow training track (I believe they are setting up

I would bet my bottom dollar that if Edinburgh were (are) kicked out of Armadale they will have somewhere to move into.. just like every year they have a back up plan to see them succeed with team building.

Apparently we have the biggest rent in the league aside Ipswich. Jesus, no wonder we can’t afford riders without sponsors, it’s time to rise above and find a new track, otherwise as George says, speedway in Newcastle isn’t sustainable unless the fans turn up to the level he needs

 

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Mentalmik said:

Lewis Rose just confirmed. Pleased to have him back. Now let's get behind them!!!!!!! Let's surprise the doubters.

Really? So 2 points under the limit, and a rider who we have never tried to sign, yet relying on goodwill for him to ride for us..

good on Lewis for putting the club first, rubbish from the club for expecting him to do so

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Christ, that means Ludvig is at 1, this forum might get interesting, personally I'm looking forward to watching this team, might not be the strongest, but all 7 riders are entertainment

How would everyone put the team? Obviously Ludvig is at 1 and Morris and Wilko are at reserve, how will the rest of the team look?

I can see Lewis being our number 1 pretty quickly

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7 hours ago, Diamond geezer said:

 

the biggest dissapointment is the realisation, not just how much we were forewarned of a poor year,  and the need to consolidate for the future, the only step needed to make newcastle speedway survive is to move away from brough Park

I am sure all the corporate followers will stand up and say it’s not possible, or they have tried. But the only mistake they have made is not making it happen..

 

Apparently we have the biggest rent in the league aside Ipswich. Jesus, no wonder we can’t afford riders without sponsors, it’s time to rise above and find a new track, otherwise as George says, speedway in Newcastle isn’t sustainable unless the fans turn up to the level he needs

 

 

 

 

 

Two simple questions for you then.  What with (finances) and where (location)?

It can't be a "mistake" if they couldn't find a suitable piece of land (or didn't have the financial part of it sorted).

I'm guessing you know of someone with thousands of pounds to throw at it (with very little return) and a nice big patch of land, where the planning permission won't be much of a problem, for track, viewing facitities, pits, car park, pipes for the toilets and running water etc. If so, I'm sure George, Martin etc., would be eager to hear from you!!

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7 hours ago, Dandelion said:

Christ, that means Ludvig is at 1, this forum might get interesting, personally I'm looking forward to watching this team, might not be the strongest, but all 7 riders are entertainment

How would everyone put the team? Obviously Ludvig is at 1 and Morris and Wilko are at reserve, how will the rest of the team look?

I can see Lewis being our number 1 pretty quickly

It really only takes say a Lewis Rose to go to the next level which he is very capable of as long as he stays injury free and this team has a whole new complexion.

 

Whilst i get what people are saying but you only need one rider to really kick on , also have a feeling that this will not be the team 4 or 5 weeks into the season i would urge people to keep the faith some may say a bit rich coming from a Glasgow fan but we also have seen the bad times more than the good , this team may just surprise you.

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As we proved last year, having two big hitters guarantees nothing which is exactly what we won.

Good on yer Wilko and lets see how it goes. Yes, it would have been better to be at 42 but if Lewis had finished the season we would be a lot closer.

Banging up the starting averages is what makes the difference and there is room for improvement in a few spots.

If anyone struggles, Wilko will be getting 7 rides a match again B)

The other plus point will be a stable team. Not multiple guests when they are in Poland, the U21’s, the GB squad or a drummed up match in the outer Hebrides!

I still remember Hull being tipped for bottom and winning the lot. Here’s hoping?

 

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Having and out and out number one is over rated in my opinion. It's nice to have one, but if the Diamonds can share the first heat, they should be 8-4 up after two heats against most of the teams in the league. It looks a solid side to me.

Some of the teams are a bit top heavy but have inexperienced reserve pairings and it should make for some exciting contests at Brough Park. Just hope the fans get out and get behind them.

 

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I think we have already shown in the recent past that having 2 big hitters in your team is no guarantee of winning anything (apologies to anyone who has already made this point). 2 years ago we were on the verge of winning something with Robert and Steve taking most rides in heats 13 and 15. This proved not to be enough as the likes of Richard Lawson, Craig Cook, Josh Grajonek, Ricky Wells and Kyle Howarth would more often than not take the heat wins.

As Wilko says, there is something in having a balanced team and so long as we can avoid conceding two 5 1's in heats 13 and 15, home and away, you just never know we could surprise a few teams.

Teams which do look stronger than us on paper may well experience the availability issues we suffered last season in particular. Hopefully our new "weakened" team should not have those problems which will be better for team spirit as well as removing a frequent frustration for fans when their favorite riders were not available.

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Well, I suppose a rider line up of (my guess)

Ludvig Lindgren 7.21
Tero Aarnio     5.02
Lewis Rose      6.49
Matthew Wethers 5.65
Stuart Robson   7.02
Carl Wilkinson  4.97
Ashley Morris   4.88

Isn't about to spread terror through the ranks of the speedway world.  Going on the principle of let's not finish last in every heat, whilst acknowledging first places may be few and far between.

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this team is shocking - no disrespect to the 7 lads because they are all triers and will give it all but the team is 2 points under the limit - worse than with luddo and robbo at 1 and 5 - heats 13 and 15 are going to difficult at home and nigh on 10-2 certainties away from home

the team is under-strength and the 1-5 will be found out ....  where are we going to win heats .... as I say I don't blame the 7 riders ........ ok we are strong at reserve ... but so are some other teams .............  u just cant give away 2 points ..... the top riders of opposing teams are going to have a field day

ok we had 2 heat leaders last year and won nowt, but that was because we gambled at reserve level and it went badly wrong - but at least we were in all the competitions and there was plenty of entertainment with steve and robert

in the last 10 years - the successful teams have had a top number 1 rider and a strong reserve at 6

apart from lewis .... none of our riders are gaters .......  and we will win NO matches away from home and I will be surprised if we manage 40 anywhere

at home - if think we will win maybe 6 of our 10 league matches but take a couple of bad beatings off the likes of Sheffield or Glasgow

we have wooden spoonists written all over us ...............   but I will be there ..... but this could be our last season as I think we will struggle crowd size with that team assembled

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9 minutes ago, mauger65 said:

this team is shocking - no disrespect to the 7 lads because they are all triers and will give it all but the team is 2 points under the limit - worse than with luddo and robbo at 1 and 5 - heats 13 and 15 are going to difficult at home and nigh on 10-2 certainties away from home

the team is under-strength and the 1-5 will be found out ....  where are we going to win heats .... as I say I don't blame the 7 riders ........ ok we are strong at reserve ... but so are some other teams .............  u just cant give away 2 points ..... the top riders of opposing teams are going to have a field day

ok we had 2 heat leaders last year and won nowt, but that was because we gambled at reserve level and it went badly wrong - but at least we were in all the competitions and there was plenty of entertainment with steve and robert

in the last 10 years - the successful teams have had a top number 1 rider and a strong reserve at 6

apart from lewis .... none of our riders are gaters .......  and we will win NO matches away from home and I will be surprised if we manage 40 anywhere

at home - if think we will win maybe 6 of our 10 league matches but take a couple of bad beatings off the likes of Sheffield or Glasgow

we have wooden spoonists written all over us ...............   but I will be there ..... but this could be our last season as I think we will struggle crowd size with that team assembled

Has anyone got the samaritans number I think someone needs it ffs!!!! 

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Well with the Rose signing, and the circumstances behind his change in plans, I am happier than I was. I had already said that I hoped someone in Poland would drop out, but I thought that would be sometime into the season. This way we have Rosie where he will be appreciated, and hope for him to have an injury free season. 

We don’t appear to have a weak link and everyone is capable of winning a race, which we could not say when we had 2 top heat leaders. They are all triers and are capable of getting results though their efforts. Ludde, Robbo, Rose, will be fine, Tero Ash Wilko and Wethers if they ride to there competences especially Tero, they will bring us victories especially if we get behind them. 

It is no good now having Glasgow expectations, given the circumstances that the club found itself when Alan walked out. Have faith in George and Martin, a  consolidation year, glad we have speedway, can’t expect too much, seems to be far from the reactions to our team now. This promotion has gone through the team building process after everyone else had about a 2 month start. It may be necessary to restrenghthen at some time in the future, and if there are riders available the club will do what it has to do. It wants success just the same as everyone else, so give the team a chance. Interesting that some of the doom merchants don’t even go to speedway, so I prefer those who have genuine concerns and love their Speedway especially Newcastle. Once a rider puts on the Diamond jacket he is our rider, so let’s look forward to an interesting and entertaining season. 

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