ruffdiamond Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 49 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: Why is the points limit a ridiculous number , take off heat 15 as it’s a 5 th ride for two riders and that means 42 pts will get you a draw so the the limit is set to 42.5 pts giving your sid a chance of winning the meeting . If your side wants to win matches you build your side as close as you can to the limit simple , so it looks like Newcastle don’t want to win matches which will then affect attendances and the vicious circle will just keep repeating Who's 'your sid',,, is he our new rider ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondlil Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Has he come out of retirement lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 10 hours ago, New era Panthers said: It's not the 6 point rule which has caused the problem , it's the BSPA by raising the points limit up to 42.50 and with an extra team ( Lakeside ) included for 2018 meant there was a big chance of some clubs struggling to put out a competitive team . It would have been more sensible to have left the upper limit at 40.00 then all would have had a better chance of being competitive . It's nothing to do with the BSPA. Get off your high horse. It was voted in on a majority vote by all promoters present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, IronScorpion said: It's nothing to do with the BSPA. Get off your high horse. It was voted in on a majority vote by all promoters present. The BSPA are the promoters 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Come on boys n girls, play nicely. Its only a Forum no need to attack one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 personally I think the best set up was back when it was 45 point team average 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 12 hours ago, Pinny said: The obvious answer to that is drop down a league? and to Steve Park, when you lose every single meeting, which looking at other line ups looks extremely likely, come back and call it a ridiculous comment. Tool. Just because my opinion differs to yours, you have to resort to name calling? Well done. I don't believe we will lose every single meeting, so I won't be "coming back" and, I believe, it will be you who will be eating humble pie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauger65 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 The issue is not the 42.50 - its the fact over the winter so many heat leaders announced they were leaving the league - which left just 12 riders with average of 8 between 11 clubs Then the 5 strong sides immediately signed up 2 each - leaving just 2 between the other 6 (before Scotty came free) - so the league was already split into 2 before the season started Of course it would have been sensible to have the top 11 split across the league, but compromise (lack of) and total self interest ensured that didn't happen ..... along with the Kennett and nicholls saga I don't think Im going out on a limb here but ................... top 5 will be Glasgow sheffield Edinburgh Ipswich and Lakeside (any order) middle 3 will be Peterboro Redcar and Scunthorpe bottom 3 Workington Berwick and Newcastle - who will all lose their 10 away games the top and middle 3 will be the 4tt competitors ..... the clrc will come from there the pairs winners will be 1 of the top 5 cup and league cup will be won by top 5 and the lottery numbers this weekend are 4 10 17 23 30 and 46 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, StevePark said: Just because my opinion differs to yours, you have to resort to name calling? Well done. I don't believe we will lose every single meeting, so I won't be "coming back" and, I believe, it will be you who will be eating humble pie. You wont lose every meeting because of the track, a lot of visitors don't like it and just go through the motions to get it over with. Having said that; we don't know the full line-up, so that could be a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks123 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, scaramanga said: personally I think the best set up was back when it was 45 point team average Is it not like having a 45 point team average. I think bonus points were included in a rider's average years ago and now they aren't which would probably increase the team average by 2 or 3 points? The Newcastle team (as well as others) could easily change so I wouldn't rule the team out (think possibly Glasgow were the only team to start and finish with the same team). I also said at the start of last year that the riders champion possibly wasn't in the league (the first 2 were not) yet. Edited March 22, 2018 by sparks123 Additional info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauger65 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 The track is a technical track which gives us some advantage ....... any decent rider will always score well at Brough However since averages were brought in (84 I think) - Newcastle have only gone 1 season unbeaten at home (all matches) .......... when we last won the league Hull beat us in the Cup and when we won 3 trophies in 2010 (?) .... Edinburgh dusted us 50-40 at home So Newcastle's home advantage is NOT that great Certain teams in this league have gone unbeaten for several seasons at home - but because they have a wide track its open and fair - even though all the home riders had a huge advantage Anyway, Im sure the top 5 are marking us down as a potential 4 pointer .......... and the other 5 are marking us down as potential away win ........ although I do think we will win those 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Says in this weeks speedway star that the promotion were disappointed and let down at the weekend by a rider who they had agreed terms with... If they were that let down why not just name him!!! I remember few years ago when Ian Thomas was let down by Graham Plant and he had the whole speedway world knowing the next day what had happened Edited March 22, 2018 by KEITH M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, StevePark said: Just because my opinion differs to yours, you have to resort to name calling? Well done. I don't believe we will lose every single meeting, so I won't be "coming back" and, I believe, it will be you who will be eating humble pie. Eating humble pie? I very much doubt that. that Newcastle side named is absolutely dreadful. Even if the final rider is unbeatable it still looks poor. Its been built with zero ambition. Plenty of entertainers yes, but full of journeymen. Can’t fault the riders signed its not their doing, its awful team building from a promotion and management who should know better. hope Wilko has a good year, one of the good guys in speedway and always a favorite of mine at Newport. Never a dull moment with Carl in a race thats for sure! But unless changes are made, this side will be rock bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Pinny, do you want cream or custard with it ? Edited March 22, 2018 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, Pinny said: Eating humble pie? I very much doubt that. that Newcastle side named is absolutely dreadful. Even if the final rider is unbeatable it still looks poor. Its been built with zero ambition. Plenty of entertainers yes, but full of journeymen. Can’t fault the riders signed its not their doing, its awful team building from a promotion and management who should know better. hope Wilko has a good year, one of the good guys in speedway and always a favorite of mine at Newport. Never a dull moment with Carl in a race thats for sure! But unless changes are made, this side will be rock bottom. it doesnt matter who signs who, someone will be bottom. Even without the final rider named they will win the majority of home meetings imo but then I'm probably some kind of tool too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantodan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 I think our 6 named riders will all pop up and score points and the team will surprise a few people who are writing us off, but when results are in may get a surprise. We need a quality rider to lead us.. god knows who he will be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, dantodan said: I think our 6 named riders will all pop up and score points and the team will surprise a few people who are writing us off, but when results are in may get a surprise. We need a quality rider to lead us.. god knows who he will be Ludde,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 hours ago, mauger65 said: The issue is not the 42.50 - its the fact over the winter so many heat leaders announced they were leaving the league - which left just 12 riders with average of 8 between 11 clubs Then the 5 strong sides immediately signed up 2 each - leaving just 2 between the other 6 (before Scotty came free) - so the league was already split into 2 before the season started Of course it would have been sensible to have the top 11 split across the league, but compromise (lack of) and total self interest ensured that didn't happen ..... along with the Kennett and nicholls saga All done and dusted before the AGM. It was fairly common knowledge two of our team was sorted for 2018 before we had won the KOC Final, no prizes for guessing who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainlesssteelride Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) So nicholls racing for lakeside was never going to happen? Or do you mean lambert and Ulrich Edited March 22, 2018 by Stainlesssteelride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond geezer Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 13/03/2018 at 11:55 AM, Winditon said: To be honest I'm thankful we have Speedway. I know George has the club at heart but it was frustrating not hearing anything. I don't expect to know the club's business but a brief statement that was released yesterday is all we ask for. Onwards and Upwards now hopefully. I couldn’t agree more. I don’t normally comment much on here but I am a regular follower. I do think we are so fortunate to have a promoter so dedicated to newcastle speedway. I do think our weakness as a club is communication and with the new promotion had hoped for significant improvements. I do trust that our promotion has the best of intentions, and will support the club through thick and thin, but if I ever had an audience with George, all I would say is, aslong as u talk and tell us the fans the truth, i will be returning every week, no matter what, a lot happier than i do if we get a wall of silence. Here is hoping for for some really good news, and best of luck to George, Martin and the new sponsors. You can’t beat speedway, and speedway is never better than watching it at brough with the diamonds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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