moxey63 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Looking for Belle Vue scorers for matches in other countries. I know they raced several times in Russia in the 50s etc and Hungary (1991) and need the details for my records, and details of any other trips in other countries the club undertook. Thanks in advance... Edited September 22, 2017 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Thought they also made some legendary appearances in Poland and maybe Russia when Peter Craven was riding for the Aces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Belle Vue did venture to Europe in the 1950s as I found out thanks to a Google search! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Thought they also made some legendary appearances in Poland and maybe Russia when Peter Craven was riding for the Aces 1955 was the year the Aces ventured behind the iron curtain to Poland.The first team from Britain to do so.Ron Johnston was almost arrested as he stepped off the plane as he pulled out a cine camera!!Austrian riders Fritz Dirtl and Jozef Kamper were involved as a 60,000 sell out crowd,with an estimated 20,000 outside saw the Aces win in Wroclaw with 38 to Polands 21 and the Austrian Motor Rennklub last with 12. Belle Vue won a second meeting in warsaw 66-42.One Polish qualifier for a later world final said he hoped Peter Craven would win as he was the idol of all polish children.... Belle Vue team wasPC,Ron Johnston,Ken Sharples,Dick Fisher,Bob Duckworth,Peter William,Fred Rogers and Arthur Wright from Bradford as a 'guest' In Wroclaw Arthur Wright scored 12 and PC 11 In Warsaw PC 16,Johnston 14,Sharples 11 and Williams 9.Sharples and Johnston stood down from their last rides to allow Fisher and Brand(??)their first and only rides of the tour taken from the book The Wizard of Balance Edited September 23, 2017 by iris123 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Possibility that they might have ridden in Leningrad in 1967.Leningrad rode at Belle Vue in 1968 as some invitation from the earlier meeting perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Possibility that they might have ridden in Leningrad in 1967.Leningrad rode at Belle Vue in 1968 as some invitation from the earlier meeting perhaps? There was a feature, I recall, in a back edition of 'Backtrack' regarding 'The Aces' riding in Russia during the sixties...I may have had a programme in my collection before I sold it off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) Possibility that they might have ridden in Leningrad in 1967.Leningrad rode at Belle Vue in 1968 as some invitation from the earlier meeting perhaps? Belle Vue did indeed make a trip to the Soviet Union at the beginning of October 1967. In pouring rain they lost a team match 47-61 to Leningrad, with Ove Fundin top scoring with 13 points. Tommy Roper scored 12 and Sandor Levai 8, with guests from Swindon Mike Broadbank and Bob Kilby contributing 7 and 5 respectively. Cyril Maidment was unable to travel due to a family bereavement. An individual meeting was also staged, in which Fundin finished third. Reflecting the expeditionary nature of the trip, the Aces riders took their own handlebars and rode JAWA-ESO machines provided by their hosts. The luxury of transporting the handlebars cost £11 for excess baggage, Edited September 28, 2017 by BL65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bavarian Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) The above photograph shows the touring Belle Vue riders lining-up at Leningrad, along with the local Russian riders, prior to the individual meeting on October 8, 1967. On the previous day, October 7, the Belle Vue Aces and Barrikada Leningrad had contested a teams match at the same track. Edited March 18, 2018 by Bavarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bavarian Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 Above is a picture of Ove Fundin and the rest of the Belle Vue gang in the streets of Leningrad during their Russian trip of October 1967. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 Interesting photos! What became of the speedway track in Leningrad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 Track looks VERY wet! No-one would even think of riding that today" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Bavarian said: Above is a picture of Ove Fundin and the rest of the Belle Vue gang in the streets of Leningrad during their Russian trip of October 1967. ...looks like Sandor Levai in the photo in the photo as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndBender Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Nyiregyhaza 29.04.91 Hungary 68 (Zoltan Adorjan 18, Joszef Petrikovics 15, Zoltan Hajdu 12, Robert Nagy 8, Sandor Tihanyi 7, Laszlo Bodi 6, Zsolt Kovacs 2) Belle Vue 40 (Carl Stonehewer 11, Chris Morton 11, Kelly Moran 10, David Blackburn 3, Nigel Leaver 2, David Walsh 2, Paul Smith 1) Miskolc 30.04.91 (rained off after 11 heats) Hungary 43 (Zoltan Adorjan 11, Zoltan Hajdu 9, Joszef Petrikovics 9, Robert Nagy 7, Laszlo Bodi 4, Sandor Tihanyi 3, L.Czaki dnr) Belle Vue 22 (David Blackburn 7, Chris Morton 6, Nigel Leaver 3, David Walsh 2, Paul Smith 2, Kelly Moran 2, Carl Stonehewer dnr) Warsaw 23.10.55 Warsaw 42 (Wlodzimierz Szwendrowski 16, Florian Kapala 8, Marian Kaiser 8, Mieczyslaw Polukard 6, Alojzy Frach (r) 3, Andrzej Krzesinski 1, Zibigniew Ranisewski (r) 0, Edward Kupczynski 0) Belle Vue 66 (Peter Craven 16, Ron Johnston 14, Ken Sharples 11, Arthur Wright 10, Peter Williams 9, Bob Duckworth 6, Dick Fisher (r) 0, Fred Rogers (r) 0) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndBender Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 16 hours ago, 25yearfan said: What became of the speedway track in Leningrad? A St Petersburg (Leningrad) team competed in the Finnish League in the late '90s, but I'm not sure if they used the same track the Aces raced at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 19 hours ago, Bavarian said: From what i can see from left to right is that Broady,Kilby,Roper,Nevitt??? Levai and the great Dent Oliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, 2ndBender said: Nyiregyhaza 29.04.91 Hungary 68 (Zoltan Adorjan 18, Joszef Petrikovics 15, Zoltan Hajdu 12, Robert Nagy 8, Sandor Tihanyi 7, Laszlo Bodi 6, Zsolt Kovacs 2) Belle Vue 40 (Carl Stonehewer 11, Chris Morton 11, Kelly Moran 10, David Blackburn 3, Nigel Leaver 2, David Walsh 2, Paul Smith 1) Miskolc 30.04.91 (rained off after 11 heats) Hungary 43 (Zoltan Adorjan 11, Zoltan Hajdu 9, Joszef Petrikovics 9, Robert Nagy 7, Laszlo Bodi 4, Sandor Tihanyi 3, L.Czaki dnr) Belle Vue 22 (David Blackburn 7, Chris Morton 6, Nigel Leaver 3, David Walsh 2, Paul Smith 2, Kelly Moran 2, Carl Stonehewer dnr) Warsaw 23.10.55 Warsaw 42 (Wlodzimierz Szwendrowski 16, Florian Kapala 8, Marian Kaiser 8, Mieczyslaw Polukard 6, Alojzy Frach (r) 3, Andrzej Krzesinski 1, Zibigniew Ranisewski (r) 0, Edward Kupczynski 0) Belle Vue 66 (Peter Craven 16, Ron Johnston 14, Ken Sharples 11, Arthur Wright 10, Peter Williams 9, Bob Duckworth 6, Dick Fisher (r) 0, Fred Rogers (r) 0) Thank you, 2ndBender. Those results will help me so much with my project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndBender Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 No worries Moxey, always on the look-out for obscure results myself. Unfortunately, I can't track down the Hungarian Czaki's christian name, which annoys me greatly1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, 2ndBender said: No worries Moxey, always on the look-out for obscure results myself. Unfortunately, I can't track down the Hungarian Czaki's christian name, which annoys me greatly1 There was a Csaky (Christian name, Laszlo) that rode the 1990 Hungarian Championship, according to Loader's Annual for 1991 (covering 1990 season). Edited March 19, 2018 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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