scaramanga Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 both mason and james out tonight for other teams strange that mason scored 10+1 for ipswich at no.3 and james once again scores a impressive 10+1 for glasgow with 2 heat wins workingtons season could have been mutch better if james had decided to ride like he does for glasgow and the comets management had done what the fans asked and switched mason and matt around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory peck Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 both mason and james out tonight for other teams strange that mason scored 10+1 for ipswich at no.3 and james once again scores a impressive 10+1 for glasgow with 2 heat wins workingtons season could have been mutch better if james had decided to ride like he does for glasgow and the comets management had done what the fans asked and switched mason and matt around Management seem to have shut down completely,even Steve whitehead who went on a defensive rant if anyone dare criticise, and Tony Jackson has never had any crowd interaction won't even be interviewed on the centre green, fearing the worst really 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 both mason and james out tonight for other teams strange that mason scored 10+1 for ipswich at no.3 and james once again scores a impressive 10+1 for glasgow with 2 heat wins workingtons season could have been mutch better if james had decided to ride like he does for glasgow and the comets management had done what the fans asked and switched mason and matt around Wouldn't say it was strange Mason scored well at number 3, he's a much improved rider nowadays and will continue to improve. Definately agree on the switch between 2 and 4, could of made us tick, a very strange decision indeed! If we continue to run next season a change of aproach to the team management side of things would be a good start. In fact, the total lack of communication from the promotion in recent months is concerning and the club could do with some fresh ideas from those either closest to the club or even some very willing volunteers with the right prowess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 i am sorry to say this , but the management team and any other involved in the running of workington speedway have gone into , the cant see me mode . its a shame because laura seemed a genuine person and was always there to answer questions , it really does look like the end of workington speedway . there are no more genuine promoters left to help save a once great club . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Taylorj Posted September 21, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Jesus Christ do you lot never give up !!! What the hell is this post about apart from crucifying Workington speedway and you are supposed to be fans , not a bit of wonder they have left the Unofficial Forum down having to listen to the same garbage from the same people ... give it a rest .. If we lose our speedway it won't come back , and you's will have a big part to play in that, get behind the Club instead hiding behind your computers and constantly slating 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Jesus Christ do you lot never give up !!! What the hell is this post about apart from crucifying Workington speedway and you are supposed to be fans , not a bit of wonder they have left the Unofficial Forum down having to listen to the same garbage from the same people ... give it a rest .. If we lose our speedway it won't come back , and you's will have a big part to play in that, get behind the Club instead hiding behind your computers and constantly slating we will only have a big part to play in the closure of workington speedway ,IF WE DONT SUPPORT THE TEAM , WEEK IN ,WEEK OUT . most , if not all posters on here actually go to the speedway and give it their support by spending their hard earned cash at the speedway . you are not going to blame the 4 posters on here as the reason as to why the club is in difficulty . are you ? yopu have to look further back to the start of the season to find some form of reason as to its running . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 As a Season ticket holder , I have supported week in week out , whether I'm there or not , so let's clear that one up for a start !! You really think that posts like this and all the negative posts you sprawl over every single Workington post there is whether it be on here or the Unofficial Forum , in fact you pop up on nearly every bloody post there is on this Forum ... help the situation at Workington Il give you 5mins for a reply after you have been on the other 3 Workington posts, you are so predictable you really do need to get a life 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 its definitely ladies week somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) As a Season ticket holder , I have supported week in week out , whether I'm there or not , so let's clear that one up for a start !! You really think that posts like this and all the negative posts you sprawl over every single Workington post there is whether it be on here or the Unofficial Forum , in fact you pop up on nearly every bloody post there is on this Forum ... help the situation at Workington Il give you 5mins for a reply after you have been on the other 3 Workington posts, you are so predictable you really do need to get a life so whats with the clearing up of you being a season ticket holder . what has that got to do with the way you or i support the team . the 4 posters that posted on here ( not including yourself ) have beliefs that things could have gone sweeter this season than they have . many fans who DONT post on this site or the now defunct unofficial site and never even post at all , believe things could have been a lot better . info given out . site updated frequently , you know , the small things that make speedway more enjoyable on a saturday night . i am not going into a war of words with you, as i said , many fans dont come on here , so dont say the %1.00 of us are going to close the club down . were we to blame for all those hundreds of fans leaving over the years ? no . its the sign of the times , things move on , as do fans to another form of entertainment . whatever it is . we havent killed off workington speedway , the governing body has done that . you only need to look at the draconian rules of the sport . why is one of our best riders riding at 2 . mason should be at 3/4 so he is still involved in the run into the finish line . sorry you didnt get a reply within 5 mins , had daddy stuff to do . i wont put a time limit on your reply . just as and when you feel comfortable .. Edited September 21, 2017 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 its definitely ladies week somewhere. I think you've got the wrong week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 What gets me (as an outsider), when Keith Denham was in charge, people criticised him and voted with their feet and said "we won't be back until he goes." He went and when the current Promotion took over, the crowds came back, but the club seem to be in a similar position again now. So the question is, "what, exactly, do the speedway fans of Workington actually want?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 What gets me (as an outsider), when Keith Denham was in charge, people criticised him and voted with their feet and said "we won't be back until he goes." He went and when the current Promotion took over, the crowds came back, but the club seem to be in a similar position again now. So the question is, "what, exactly, do the speedway fans of Workington actually want?" Is the nature of a Cumbrian, would argue with themselves in an empty room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceslider Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 What a shame to read this thread which seems indicative of a general malaise in UK speedway. Always found Workington to be an excellent venue, easy to get to, free parking, variety of viewing options for spectators etc. Arguably have the services of the league's best number 1 and a team which looked like it could achieve silverware this year. Have to agree that poor communication seems to be a problem with many teams when spectators don't know until the very last minute who will be riding (or more to the point who will not be riding). Surprised that team selection seems to be an issue as most team managers normally have a pretty good handle on this, but I guess maybe there are exceptions. Sincerely hope that the Comets do complete their outstanding fixtures and run next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 What a shame to read this thread which seems indicative of a general malaise in UK speedway. Always found Workington to be an excellent venue, easy to get to, free parking, variety of viewing options for spectators etc. Arguably have the services of the league's best number 1 and a team which looked like it could achieve silverware this year. Have to agree that poor communication seems to be a problem with many teams when spectators don't know until the very last minute who will be riding (or more to the point who will not be riding). Surprised that team selection seems to be an issue as most team managers normally have a pretty good handle on this, but I guess maybe there are exceptions. Sincerely hope that the Comets do complete their outstanding fixtures and run next year £2 parking in the stadium (just to make that bit clear! Yes you can park for free outside!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) its been a while since the free parking was on . quite a while actually . on paper , we had a good team , but then the premiership took most of the riders away from their championship sides when they were needed .this year seems pretty bad for r/r and guests and some fans are voting with their feet .team selection or riding order has been a major issue with the . tm/management not want ing to listen to fans and totally ignore them .mason campton is a prime example of the ignorance of the management at worky . campton has been doing really well of late , but still they insist of putting him at the number 2 position . therefore mason is the first rider to finish hie riders first and then he stands about waiting to see if he is in ht 15 . the guy should be at 3 or 4 to give us a fighting chance . matt has sort of struggled in the number 4 position . he would have been better at 2 .not just my theory , but most fans . we have supported laura for the time she has run the club and no doubt will conyinue to support her . she deserves it . as for the denham era . . a proper tyrant and a not so people person . banned out more fans at the click of his fingers . Edited September 22, 2017 by jenga 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlislecomet2 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 I know there will be a multitude of different reasons why the Workington public appear to have turned their back on the Comets, and I for one would be very interested to hear why they have stopped attending. The pulling of the unofficial Comets forum doesn't help, however only the die hard fans would read this in any case. Perhaps the local paper could run a story, both in newsprint and on line to try to get people to air their views and/or grievances. Whilst there has been apparent problems off the track, this years speedway has been entertaining on very well prepared tracks, and we have been privileged (most weeks) to watch the British Champion in action. I know British Speedway is in a bit of a mess at present, and we all have our own ideas how we think it could be improved and how our riding order should be tweaked etc. but maybe it comes down to whether people want to watch live sport or sit on their backsides watching Sky Sports et al. It is quite sad to see that most of the support for the club seems to be coming from supporters of other teams, who have openly said they don't want to see the Comets disappear. As for the locals, unfortunately it seems as if it is going to be a case of not realising what you had until its gone. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 What a shame to read this thread which seems indicative of a general malaise in UK speedway. Always found Workington to be an excellent venue, easy to get to, free parking, variety of viewing options for spectators etc. Arguably have the services of the league's best number 1 and a team which looked like it could achieve silverware this year. Have to agree that poor communication seems to be a problem with many teams when spectators don't know until the very last minute who will be riding (or more to the point who will not be riding). Surprised that team selection seems to be an issue as most team managers normally have a pretty good handle on this, but I guess maybe there are exceptions. Sincerely hope that the Comets do complete their outstanding fixtures and run next year Jacko never tries anything new and that may very well be the underlying issue with rider performance? Perhaps certain riders are not comfortable in their current position and feel a change may help, poor scores could be a reflection of this as in my, and probably in many other people's opinion as well, I dont expect riders to become bad overnight yet ours, over the course of a few seasons now, seem to do exactly that? No one will want to ride badly deliberately as it's their job to earn money but something has to be wrong in the structure for this to be the almost regular finish to a Comets season no matter who rides here? As for the Keith Denham issue mentioned earlier, the guy did invest a lot into the club but his "my way or the highway" attitude alienated an awful lot of people, including riders I'd hazard to say, and that takes some getting over, I've no idea if he's still got an influence down there but the current management characteristics are very similar in nature? A good clear out was mooted on another thread and that may very well need to be the case if this club is to survive, who takes over and how is one for the winter? I know there will be a multitude of different reasons why the Workington public appear to have turned their back on the Comets, and I for one would be very interested to hear why they have stopped attending. The pulling of the unofficial Comets forum doesn't help, however only the die hard fans would read this in any case. Perhaps the local paper could run a story, both in newsprint and on line to try to get people to air their views and/or grievances. Whilst there has been apparent problems off the track, this years speedway has been entertaining on very well prepared tracks, and we have been privileged (most weeks) to watch the British Champion in action. I know British Speedway is in a bit of a mess at present, and we all have our own ideas how we think it could be improved and how our riding order should be tweaked etc. but maybe it comes down to whether people want to watch live sport or sit on their backsides watching Sky Sports et al. It is quite sad to see that most of the support for the club seems to be coming from supporters of other teams, who have openly said they don't want to see the Comets disappear. As for the locals, unfortunately it seems as if it is going to be a case of not realising what you had until its gone. This line says it all, most locals have already made that clear and aren't really bothered one way or the other, just remember that Workington Town RL had everything going for them during the nineties and look what a mess they made of the Golden Egg? It's not just about the Comets, everything sporting in this town relies on success to survive due to our location, yet that's something that only makes a rare and fleeting appearance in these parts and you have to grab it, our sports just aren't quick enough to capitalise on it when it does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) What gets me (as an outsider), when Keith Denham was in charge, people criticised him and voted with their feet and said "we won't be back until he goes." He went and when the current Promotion took over, the crowds came back, but the club seem to be in a similar position again now. So the question is, "what, exactly, do the speedway fans of Workington actually want?" bang on the mark there all the promises that were made regarding we wont shut you out and well listern and learn and keep you informed were stuck too wernt they oh sorry no they wernt personaly my view is workington is a great place to watch speedway weve had some decent teams and at times promotors have tried hard the bad side is some of the promotoes will go all out regardless of right or wrong to prove they are in charge its all a supply and demand thing it dosnt matter how much you want to do things your way if thoose who are paying dont agree you wont have a customer base its like marmite sandwichs 1 person might love them but theres no way you will make a living by opening a shop that only sell marmite you have to give the customers something there reasnobly happy with or they wont come back the only real difference is when denham took over he lost about 200 straight away by sacking some staff and banning others he didnt want in and there friends and family went with them thats another thing you have to considor sometimes 1 person going or stopping to go can also take another 2 or 3 with them if there a influential type of person Edited September 22, 2017 by scarra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 I think the problems this year have been a mixture if I'm honest. First of all the 1st bit mistake was signing Roynon in the 1st place, he never got out the reserve berth for a full season prior to this, his equipment and attitude looked questionable an to be honest he was never going to improve. Worth a risk by the promotion? I'm 50/50 on It, as we've seen the rider he could be/once was. I think it's time now that folk accept Adam Roynon is where he is going to be now. Such a shame injury ruined a potentially great rider as imo baring injury he would be a even better rider that Craig cook is right now. The replacement which ever way you look at it has been a complete disaster. That's why imo if an it's a massive if, we do run next year then we need someone who has a knowledge of riding a speedway bike, can spot a rider, would help bring a team spirit an would interact with the crowd. I know just the man for the job, a man who has been seen a lot more at Derwent park this season, an the biggest part of it is that it's a man who the riders and fans would up most respect. I don't think I need to spell it out who the person in question is. The bspa hav done the sport (not just workington) no favours this season. In face it's all a bit of a shambles. The promotion should imo listen to the crowd a little more, how about a suggestion boxed where u could put forward things that would improve speedway on a saturday night? Granted I know some would be acceptable an some not, but hence it would be a suggestion box an not a criticism box. Finally us the fans, I hav had my moans this season I can't deny that, an I do in a way feel for the promotion giving some quite frankly stupid rules brought In this season, but maybe we should get down to Derwent park for the last few meetings, adept that mistakes have been made an hopefully have our great club to suport next season. Can I finally just add that despite some of the problems this year the racing has been excellent so hat's of to all involved with that one. If only we could get rid if the deadly silence an have some upbeat music playing to help the atmosphere. Here hoping for next year, I would be geninually gutted if we loose it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 I think the problems this year have been a mixture if I'm honest. First of all the 1st bit mistake was signing Roynon in the 1st place, he never got out the reserve berth for a full season prior to this, his equipment and attitude looked questionable an to be honest he was never going to improve. Worth a risk by the promotion? I'm 50/50 on It, as we've seen the rider he could be/once was. I think it's time now that folk accept Adam Roynon is where he is going to be now. Such a shame injury ruined a potentially great rider as imo baring injury he would be a even better rider that Craig cook is right now. The replacement which ever way you look at it has been a complete disaster. That's why imo if an it's a massive if, we do run next year then we need someone who has a knowledge of riding a speedway bike, can spot a rider, would help bring a team spirit an would interact with the crowd. I know just the man for the job, a man who has been seen a lot more at Derwent park this season, an the biggest part of it is that it's a man who the riders and fans would up most respect. I don't think I need to spell it out who the person in question is. The bspa hav done the sport (not just workington) no favours this season. In face it's all a bit of a shambles. The promotion should imo listen to the crowd a little more, how about a suggestion boxed where u could put forward things that would improve speedway on a saturday night? Granted I know some would be acceptable an some not, but hence it would be a suggestion box an not a criticism box. Finally us the fans, I hav had my moans this season I can't deny that, an I do in a way feel for the promotion giving some quite frankly stupid rules brought In this season, but maybe we should get down to Derwent park for the last few meetings, adept that mistakes have been made an hopefully have our great club to suport next season. Can I finally just add that despite some of the problems this year the racing has been excellent so hat's of to all involved with that one. If only we could get rid if the deadly silence an have some upbeat music playing to help the atmosphere. Here hoping for next year, I would be geninually gutted if we loose it. agree with most your post not all if roynon had clicked soon enough hed have been a match winner i too hope comets are not lost again but things need to change both on and off track the speedway weve had is no way near as bad as the season weve had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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