cheekycobra Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 I have seen many bad crashes coming off the 4th bend. I can recall 2 in particular when Josh Auty(riding for the Bears) overdid it and couldn't get it back on line and went straight into the straight fence. Another was a junior carrying too much speed. I have also seen juniors in the NJL hit it hard. You can't judge the number of accidents on the number of air bags damaged. For a start there isn't any on the home straights part, something I think is unsafe and you should have about 3 panels to cover the accidents we are talking about. A similar track pits exit like Glasgow does have them there, and I am amazed you are not required to have at least three there. I think 1 and 2 are proper corners and can have good race lines. There is a lot of drive normally, and can see some decent overtakes with inside and on the outside. Those two and the Gary Irvine crash doesn't amount to loads. Obviously there has to be some, but over 12 seasons they have been rare. Back to the original point, the banked turns are no more dangerous than flat corners (that's why I said theres more crashes on 1 and 2 than 3 and 4. Sort of agree with an airfence down the pit wall bit, but I'm guessing that that might cause more accidents if a rider riding the wide line might tag it and fall. Maybe 1 but 3 would be going to far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Those two and the Gary Irvine crash doesn't amount to loads. Obviously there has to be some, but over 12 seasons they have been rare. Back to the original point, the banked turns are no more dangerous than flat corners (that's why I said theres more crashes on 1 and 2 than 3 and 4. Sort of agree with an airfence down the pit wall bit, but I'm guessing that that might cause more accidents if a rider riding the wide line might tag it and fall. Maybe 1 but 3 would be going to far. Â I do tend to agree - definitely been more crashes into 1 and 2. A lot of the time due to a rider behind generating speed coming out of four and trying to divebomb past somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothers Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Sounds like Bewley out of Glasgow next season - could we replace Garrity with Bewley and keep pretty much the same side (2 pointer for Ayres?)? Â Yes. Going by issue 43 of the averages. Bewley for Garrity and a 2 pointer for Ayres would come to 39.95 so assuming 40 point limit of course. We do still have 2 away fixtures to fulfil so this could change (as both are away fixtures would expect our averages to drop slightly (?) possibly giving more leeway.) Â PS can we please stop this inane 'your track is more dangerous than our track' garbage. All Speedway tracks are inherently dangerous - it's the nature of the sport in case you hadn't noticed! Edited September 29, 2017 by Boothers 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Â The worst crashes coming off the fourth bend were from dirty riding - with the disgusting Richie Worrall involved in more than one... Â And Glyn Taylor - horrible little man who almost sent our club to the wall, and who ruined the track. He had to put the kerb in but it went too far out out the first bend and ruined the line. It stopped the ability to straighten up mid corner of bend one and have the long blast around three and four, the Matty T masterclass. Nobody took bends 3 and 4 better than him....(Jason Crump and Tai Woffinden aside) That'll be the Glyn Taylor who crafted the track for you, and was responsible for making a decent racing track in the early days. Given your history I don't think many Bears fans would agree with you, as many people moaned the fact that he wasn't there to get a decent track back. It has improved this year. Think you need to recount your corners as in my experience it is the first bend that seems to trouble your riders when Richie is about, notably with Kus and Summers. Shouts of "hope you broke your fu*king neck' from the bar terraces, which is on the 1st bend not the 4th bend. Disgusting. Edited September 29, 2017 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Â Yes. Going by issue 43 of the averages. Bewley for Garrity and a 2 pointer for Ayres would come to 39.95 so assuming 40 point limit of course. We do still have 2 away fixtures to fulfil so this could change (as both are away fixtures would expect our averages to drop slightly (?) possibly giving more leeway.) Â PS can we please stop this inane 'your track is more dangerous than our track' garbage. All Speedway tracks are inherently dangerous - it's the nature of the sport in case you hadn't noticed! Usually stay out of this sort of thing, but just thought our track needed defending, as I don't think its anymore dangerous with the banking as any other track. I haven't mentioned Newcastles track btw. Ill leave it now for Bellers and Tsunami to keep the Redcar thread running until March 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 That'll be the Glyn Taylor who crafted the track for you, and was responsible for making a decent racing track in the early days. Given your history I don't think many Bears fans would agree with you, as many people moaned the fact that he wasn't there to get a decent track back. It has improved this year. Think you need to recount your corners as in my experience it is the first bend that seems to trouble your riders when Richie is about, notably with Kus and Summers. Shouts of "hope you broke your fu*king neck' from the bar terraces, which is on the 1st bend not the 4th bend. Disgusting. Â And the same Glyn Taylor who nearly sent the club into extinction? Yes. Yes he knew how to prepare a track, that doesnt mean we can forget what an odious little man he was who was happy for the club to go the wall when he couldnt figure out how to make a profit. Â And when it comes to Worrall - fencing a rider on the home straight - some of the most blatant dirty riding you will ever see. And if Worrall doesnt want abuse from the terraces, he shouldnt hand it out on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Â And the same Glyn Taylor who nearly sent the club into extinction? Yes. Yes he knew how to prepare a track, that doesnt mean we can forget what an odious little man he was who was happy for the club to go the wall when he couldnt figure out how to make a profit. Â And when it comes to Worrall - fencing a rider on the home straight - some of the most blatant dirty riding you will ever see. And if Worrall doesnt want abuse from the terraces, he shouldnt hand it out on track. I am sorry to have to say this, but what a total yawn this is. I come on, hoping to find something remotely interesting and this is what you get. Very tedious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 I think Glyn Taylor is a great Trackman. The Track he built at Redcar was brilliant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Cant believe anyone from Newcastle has the neck to slate any other track 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Cant believe anyone from Newcastle has the neck to slate any other track Not been to Brough for awhile then ? By choice it has dirt on it to improve the racing. Anyway, better not talk about speedway, it's a Redcar thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Not been to Brough for awhile then ? By choice it has dirt on it to improve the racing. Anyway, better not talk about speedway, it's a Redcar thread. Yup was there for the Workington meeting.. less said about that the better.. Edinburgh when bend 3 was shocker. Glasgow when bend 3-4 was shocking Putting dirt on it doesnt make up for massive holes... its a joke in all honesty 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsc1 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 how's your new trackman done this year? There was a few on here wanted Glyn back. But what I've read on here tracks been the best it been for a long while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 how's your new trackman done this year? There was a few on here wanted Glyn back. But what I've read on here tracks been the best it been for a long while? Same track man as at Newcastle, Jonny Swales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Same track man as at Newcastle, Jonny Swales. Is he related to ex Teesside riders Tim and Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsc1 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 It's not the same trackman. The guy that did it this year is the one that did Coventry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Is he related to ex Teesside riders Tim and Tony. Eldest son of Tony. I think everyone in North Yorkshire is called Swales and are farmers. Â It's not the same trackman. The guy that did it this year is the one that did Coventry. Yes. They are a 2 man team at Redcar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldywonkenoldi Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Eldest son of Tony. I think everyone in North Yorkshire is called Swales and are farmers. Â Yes. They are a 2 man team at Redcar. Yes but that 2 man team are still higher in the league than your 7 riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Yes but that 2 man team are still higher in the league than your 7 riders I really don't blame you for celebrating, as it is such a rare event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Eldest son of Tony. I think everyone in North Yorkshire is called Swales and are farmers. Â Yes. They are a 2 man team at Redcar. Unless they are running a Garage just off the A19. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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