ch958 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) well Leicester have signed a big world star so that means there won't be one big league it won't even be considered it won't even be talked about same old same old and another big nail in the coffin if next season is anything like this one. Edited November 4, 2017 by ch958 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 well Leicester have signed a big world star so that means there won't be one big league it won't even be considered it won't even be talked about same old same old and another big nail in the coffin if next season is anything like this one. It would have been a catastrophic bigger nail if the 2 nights big league, with big riders returning, was the only thing on offer apart from the NL. There are poor clubs and some richer ones, and they all could not have afforded to hire 1 big hitter each. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 It would have been a catastrophic bigger nail if the 2 nights big league, with big riders returning, was the only thing on offer apart from the NL. There are poor clubs and some richer ones, and they all could not have afforded to hire 1 big hitter each. big hitters mean nothing to me - if they went those who remain would be big hitters and they'd turn up every week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 big hitters mean nothing to me - if they went those who remain would be big hitters and they'd turn up every week Maybe - but would the fans turn up every week? Isn't it the clubs without 'big hitters' ie the Championship clubs that are complaining most about dropping attendances and even closing in some cases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Thing is only those that attend or watch speedway on tv on a regular basis are aware of who these international big name riders are. Speedway supporters might be getting excited about Vaculík signing for Leicester however I doubt that 99% of the UK population would have any Idea who he is. Point being that the product needs to be right to attract newcomers big names won't achieve that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Thing is only those that attend or watch speedway on tv on a regular basis are aware of who these international big name riders are. Speedway supporters might be getting excited about Vaculík signing for Leicester however I doubt that 99% of the UK population would have any Idea who he is. Point being that the product needs to be right to attract newcomers big names won't achieve that.It gives something more to promote. Leicester can now go out and promote that they have a rider from the worlds top ten. Newbies are far more likely to take notice of an announcement of that ilk. Of course when they turn up they then have to be entralled by whats offered and feel inclined to come back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Maybe - but would the fans turn up every week? Isn't it the clubs without 'big hitters' ie the Championship clubs that are complaining most about dropping attendances and even closing in some cases? yeah - there's pros and cons - for me I just want 18 to 20 teams of equalish strength and stable line ups who knows really - it might kick start the sport, might kill it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 yeah - there's pros and cons - for me I just want 18 to 20 teams of equalish strength and stable line ups who knows really - it might kick start the sport, might kill it Like you I would like to see I big League ,but it's not going to happen,just the same rubbish as before IMO .Cant see fixed nights solving many problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 One big league has got to be the way. It was the salvation of speedway in 1965, maybe it could be again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 One big league has got to be the way. It was the salvation of speedway in 1965, maybe it could be again. Like yourself and many others I would like to see one big league and believe it could play a significant part in reviving UK speedway. But it does seem as if that is not going to be the way the BSPA are going. They still believe that Big Names will Plump Up the terraces. It's failed before and will fail again if that is what does come out of Tenerife. The return of Iversen to King's Lynn will not do the trick for example. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) I think the addition of Iversen at Kings Lynn and Vaculick at Leicester is far more likely to increase attendances than Edinburgh traveling to Poole or Lakeside to Glasgow in a one league structure. Once the novelty had worn off with one big league it would just be sides who were miles apart in terms of talent and travel distance for fans. It would increase the number of poorly attended meetings across a season as there would be less local fixtures and chances to attract away fans, while likely not growing an organic attendance each week anyway as most teams would be getting thumped each week in a non-competitive league where the rich would be good and the rest wouldn't. Edited November 7, 2017 by Hacksaw Jim Duggan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I think the addition of Iversen at Kings Lynn and Vaculick at Leicester is far more likely to increase attendances than Edinburgh traveling to Poole or Lakeside to Glasgow in a one league structure. Once the novelty had worn off with one big league it would just be sides who were miles apart in terms of talent and travel distance for fans. It would increase the number of poorly attended meetings across a season as there would be less local fixtures and chances to attract away fans, while likely not growing an organic attendance each week anyway as most teams would be getting thumped each week in a non-competitive league where the rich would be good and the rest wouldn't. Going for one big league has certainly worked in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Like yourself and many others I would like to see one big league and believe it could play a significant part in reviving UK speedway. But it does seem as if that is not going to be the way the BSPA are going. They still believe that Big Names will Plump Up the terraces. It's failed before and will fail again if that is what does come out of Tenerife. The return of Iversen to King's Lynn will not do the trick for example. The Big league failed last time .so using you logic that you should not try things that have not worked before it's surely a no go in your book . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Going for one big league has certainly worked in the past. I assume you were also a fan of 6 man teams and the year sides raced in the ridiculous morph suits, Swindon in green and white squares next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I think the addition of Iversen at Kings Lynn and Vaculick at Leicester is far more likely to increase attendances than Edinburgh traveling to Poole or Lakeside to Glasgow in a one league structure. Once the novelty had worn off with one big league it would just be sides who were miles apart in terms of talent and travel distance for fans. It would increase the number of poorly attended meetings across a season as there would be less local fixtures and chances to attract away fans, while likely not growing an organic attendance each week anyway as most teams would be getting thumped each week in a non-competitive league where the rich would be good and the rest wouldn't. We can only wait and see. Hopefully you are right and I am wrong. But the story of the last 20 years does not indicate an upswing in UK attendances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I assume you were also a fan of 6 man teams and the year sides raced in the ridiculous morph suits, Swindon in green and white squares next season? Six man teams are better than no man teams, I'm not that interested in what they wear. Anyway we look to be having pretty much more of the same thing, with the exception of fixed race nights for the Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I started watching Speedway in 1963 and when the British League started in 1965 it was the start of a new successful era. That was a long time ago and as much as I would like to see one big league again, this is definitely not the time. Firstly we do not have enough riders for one league and secondly some of the lower Championship sides would not be able to cope financially in one big league... even if there were enough riders. Fixed nights for the top league are without a doubt a step in the right direction in order to stop all of the missing riders due to clashes with other matches. The key part for me is how many teams in the Premier League next year ?..... plenty of guessing going on but not long to find out 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 The main reason that the last league amalgamation did not work was because promotors only thought of themselves & would not see the big picture & allow a rider control to get the league established. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I started watching Speedway in 1963 and when the British League started in 1965 it was the start of a new successful era. That was a long time ago and as much as I would like to see one big league again, this is definitely not the time. Firstly we do not have enough riders for one league and secondly some of the lower Championship sides would not be able to cope financially in one big league... even if there were enough riders. Fixed nights for the top league are without a doubt a step in the right direction in order to stop all of the missing riders due to clashes with other matches. The key part for me is how many teams in the Premier League next year ?..... plenty of guessing going on but not long to find out More than this year I would bet. I wonder how many Teams will be robbed from the Championship to prop up the so called Premier League? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 The main reason that the last league amalgamation did not work was because promotors only thought of themselves & would not see the big picture & allow a rider control to get the league established. Especially to your team Middlesborough. No one would release a second heat leader to the 'Boro and you had to take Shane Parker who was not up to it at that stage at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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