The White Knight Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 It's always good to get your leg over! Can't remember. :sad: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 The only thing that most agree on is, different nights for the two divisions. Doubling up has forced that upon us and it isn't going away. It's looking like Monday and Thursday, so Ipswich and Sheffield might go up, but who would come down as they don't like the thought of riding on these nights? No TV money and a change of night would surely hurt Leicester, also talk of Lakeside coming back, but don't think they'd fancy one of those nights. DON'T think Lakeside fancy Fridays given the problems with the Dartford tunnel/bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Glasgow have the finances to make it work and a growing fan base because they are promoted properly. White knight, you are quite correct in what you say, when I say the four teams are going up maybe I meant they are joining forces with the other 8 Looks like doyle, holder etc won't be back so the leagues are even closer than ever before so either way you look at it, call it what you like both leagues are practically the same, all you'd lose are those few guys under say 4/5 who then become heat leaders in the national league Glasgow have already stated that the Speedway has to pay for itself ,they modernised the Stadium but will not throw money at the sport.Crowds have to sustain the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 2018 interesting year me thinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 More foot shooting for speedway at Glasgow I see. Both feet this time and in true Monty Python style, Speedway UK - It's a very long running joke now. Thankfully not many people in the real world know it exists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner47 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 DON'T think Lakeside fancy Fridays given the problems with the Dartford tunnel/bridge I was under the impression that they preferred weekend racing to allow fans to get there comfortably. But those that have been this season tell me the place is almost deserted, so they might as well try another midweek night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) I was under the impression that they preferred weekend racing to allow fans to get there comfortably. But those that have been this season tell me the place is almost deserted, so they might as well try another midweek night. Â Isn't there a mini-problem in regard to weekend dates? The stadium owners stage fairly regular stock car meetings on a Sunday afternoon, while another long-established car race group The Rolling Thunder Show holds quite a few Saturday meetings during the summer months. Edited September 27, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 That fits with what I have heard. Top division of as many as 12 teams but only one league match home and away against each team plus KO cup and play offs. 12 home meetings plus possibly up to two play-offs a year and a wrecked second tier? That really the death of speedway. Â Final abject surrender to BSI and the PZM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 My View on how 2018 should go: PREMIER LEAGUE Wednesdays & Fridays. CONFERENCE LEAGUE Saturdays & Sundays. CHAMPIONSHIP LEAGUE Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays. Loads of reasons why this is the way to go, anyone else agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 My View on how 2018 should go: PREMIER LEAGUE Wednesdays & Fridays. CONFERENCE LEAGUE Saturdays & Sundays. CHAMPIONSHIP LEAGUE Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays. Â Loads of reasons why this is the way to go, anyone else agree? Monday to Sunday : British LeagueMonday to Sunday : National Development League 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Monday to Sunday : British League Monday to Sunday : National Development League I'm not really worried about the Nights for each Division. Â I am only hoping that no Tracks are forced in to closure because of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 More foot shooting for speedway at Glasgow I see. Both feet this time and in true Monty Python style, Speedway UK - It's a very long running joke now. Thankfully not many people in the real world know it exists.This must be a record year for meetings being abandoned before 15 heats have been completed,its become routine nowadays and they wonder where the fans are going.! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 12 home meetings plus possibly up to two play-offs a year and a wrecked second tier? That really the death of speedway. Â Final abject surrender to BSI and the PZM. I would much prefer a home meeting almost every week. However, this year, with only 8 teams in the top league, we have only had 14 home league matches plus KO Cup and play offs, so not a lot of difference in total and seeing each visiting team only once might make casual fans more inclined to attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 If they can get a meeting called off before heat 13, that's a massive saving not having to pay your best Riders in two heats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) Birmingham must be a doubt as well. The rye house raiders ran at a loss, so I'd be surprised if they returned. I think the rye promotions policy is quality, not quantity of meetings. Have a feeling Cradley could be the big doubt rather than Birmingham if I'm honest Edited September 27, 2017 by mb1990 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contronatura Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Birmingham must be a doubt as well. The rye house raiders ran at a loss, so I'd be surprised if they returned. I think the rye promotions policy is quality, not quantity of meetings.  Shouldn´t that be the policy for the whole sport of speedway in britain these days ? I think less can be often more...   As i mentioned before...one professional league with truly comitted foreigners in it and eleven to thirteen home matches (so a 12 to 14 teams league) in the basic round (+play off´s if needed) could suit any club...  ...maybe some riders would come back if the calendar isn´t that packed !!! ...more space for reserve dates, if the weather isn´t that fine !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 I was under the impression that they preferred weekend racing to allow fans to get there comfortably. But those that have been this season tell me the place is almost deserted, so they might as well try another midweek night.I've only missed one meeting at lakeside this season. Fridays, Saturdays & Sundays make no difference. The traffic has been awful and the crowds have been poor. The location of the track is an absolute nightmare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) I've only missed one meeting at lakeside this season. Fridays, Saturdays & Sundays make no difference. The traffic has been awful and the crowds have been poor. The location of the track is an absolute nightmare.  ​I would imagine that Lakeside have problems clearing dates to race on Saturdays and Sundays in view of long-established stock car users on these days i.e the actual stadium owners Arena Essex who stage regular Sunday meetings and the fairly regular Saturday tenants The Rolling Thunder Show? Edited September 29, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 After reading quite a few topics over the last few weeks, it seems obvious that the promoters have been having pre-AGM meetings & decided on fixed race nights of Mondays & Thursdays. If this is to attract the better riders to our shores, then surely, with Sweden being nearer(for travel) to Poland, the ISL calendar should be Poland Sunday, Sweden Monday, GB Premiership Tuesday, Denmark Wednesday, GB Premiership Thursday with our Championship being Friday, Saturday & Sunday. This would enable our Championship standard of riders to try out the Swedish & Denmark leagues. We would still have the problem, though with Polish lower leagues & our own but we have got to start working together to save the sport. Â At the AGM, the decisions made MUST be to support BOTH our top leagues & any rule changes made to simplify our sport taking away any interpretations & rulings by the MC. Â The combined one race format has worked this year with the averages now being REAL in both leagues. Â Team building, in 2018, has to reflect the difference in leagues as the Promotion/Relegation ruling has proved to be a farce. No rider can race in all 3 leagues as some riders have been shown to be out of their depth so it must be a progression of NL to CL then to PL. The PL to have NO rider less than a 4.00 point average. All teams to have at least 3 British riders of which 1 to be the no7. Â If the league make up is to change & talk is of 12 teams in the PL then the fixtures must account for this as this will reduce the number of teams in the CL. Fixtures could then be KOC at start of season & fixtures take precedence over league until completion. The league fixtures of once only home & away with an end of season Play-offs for top teams & Shield/Cup for lower teams to keep season of interest. If this amount of fixtures could be fitted in then our racing calendar has to adjust to the International calendar of the GP's where a season end date of mid October would help with the last race of the season, the Melbourne GP. As has been found out this last week, some riders have already packed up with some teams having remaining fixtures, struggling to find guests for injured riders or doubling/trebling up riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Â My View on how 2018 should go: PREMIER LEAGUE Wednesdays & Fridays. CONFERENCE LEAGUE Saturdays & Sundays. CHAMPIONSHIP LEAGUE Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays. Loads of reasons why this is the way to go, anyone else agree? Â Â It's already a done deal for the PL to be Mondays and Thursdays and will be set in stone very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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