Ghosty Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 It's already a done deal for the PL to be Mondays and Thursdays and will be set in stone very soon. The BSPA should already be planning now for Premier league Wednesdays & Thursdays for the 2019 season. The current situation is we (the UK) are THIRD in the pecking order behind Poland & Sweden we should make UK Premier league racing an attractive proposition to all the top European based racers, then CHEERY PICK WHO WE WANT! not rocket science is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Monday to Sunday : British League Monday to Sunday : National Development League Nothing I've read changes my opinion that the way to go is one British League with clubs hosting meetings on the nights/days which suits them and teams made up of those who will support this 100% 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) I am of the opinion that British speedway will always race seven days a week. Just as I think the stay-away riders will return once the likes of Sweden and Poland can no longer offer that pot of gold. Concentrate on making the product here better before we try to persuade guys back here that left the sinking ship... a ship that began sinking when these same sort of riders were actually racing here. Edited October 24, 2017 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 The farce of teams with 4/ 5 guests due to fixture clashes has to stop. Mildenhall v Cradley ... 1 cradley rider , 1 rider replacement and 5 guests.......how can you take a sport seriously when this kind of match is happening regularly ? Fixed nights is a necessity if we are to solve this problem.... otherwise Speedway will resemble the WWF wrestling circus and will no longer be categorised as a Sport 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Shorten the season to finish in september so all the Aussie boys can be back home for the Aussie GP. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Nothing I've read changes my opinion that the way to go is one British League with clubs hosting meetings on the nights/days which suits them and teams made up of those who will support this 100% perfect - but they haven't got the guts to do it. The paying public are having to fit around big name riders! Talk about the tail wagging the dog. And too many think the big names produce the best racing - wrong, they just win alot 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Shorten the season to finish in september so all the Aussie boys can be back home for the Aussie GP. Junior Tongue in cheek, I hope? Australian GP should be moved to a date when our FULL SEASON has been completed, and riders contracted to ride here should do just that, or face future suspension The farce of teams with 4/ 5 guests due to fixture clashes has to stop. Mildenhall v Cradley ... 1 cradley rider , 1 rider replacement and 5 guests.......how can you take a sport seriously when this kind of match is happening regularly ? Fixed nights is a necessity if we are to solve this problem.... otherwise Speedway will resemble the WWF wrestling circus and will no longer be categorised as a Sport No, sir! One properly and professionally organised British League will solve the doubling up/down problem. One rider, one team. Exceptions being "development league" riders allotted to BL teams' reserve positions 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Nothing I've read changes my opinion that the way to go is one British League with clubs hosting meetings on the nights/days which suits them and teams made up of those who will support this 100% How do you define 100% support? For example, if Robert Lambert has a World U21 meeting which clashes with a league match, is he supposed to forgo his personal ambitions in order to ride in the British league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 How do you define 100% support? For example, if Robert Lambert has a World U21 meeting which clashes with a league match, is he supposed to forgo his personal ambitions in order to ride in the British league? Obviously you would allow for FIM meetings and such, then again, there are some that might argue that young Mr Lambert hasn't always shown British Speedway the support that he might. The current situation certainly needs something doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Obviously you would allow for FIM meetings and such, then again, there are some that might argue that young Mr Lambert hasn't always shown British Speedway the support that he might. The current situation certainly needs something doing. Isn't that the same situation we have now? What Midland Red seems to have described is the status quo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Isn't that the same situation we have now? What Midland Red seems to have described is the status quo. No, as things are now too many riders go missing for other reasons, his 100% support means riders who put their British fixtures above those of other countries (with the possible exception of those in their country of origin). There might be a few that don't like that, so they have the choice whether to accept it or f*** off! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 No, as things are now too many riders go missing for other reasons, his 100% support means riders who put their British fixtures above those of other countries (with the possible exception of those in their country of origin). There might be a few that don't like that, so they have the choice whether to accept it or f*** off! Such as? Other that Jack Holder, I can't think of another rider who has chosen to ride elsewhere when their have had a fixture clash with a British league fixture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 How do you define 100% support? For example, if Robert Lambert has a World U21 meeting which clashes with a league match, is he supposed to forgo his personal ambitions in order to ride in the British league? It doesn't have to be a World U21 meeting though does it as been proved by R Lambert & J Holder. Their personal ambition, like most riders, are to improve & they have been given the opportunities to ride in a better, more professional, better paid leagues riding with & against better riders rather than riding for their British clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Such as? Other that Jack Holder, I can't think of another rider who has chosen to ride elsewhere when their have had a fixture clash with a British league fixture. I never mentioned the word "chosen." This month is filled with pointless and frequently rained-off fixtures that were never rearranged for earlier dates because of rider (un)availability. You recently had a fixture where one team had six guests and R/R, partly because two riders were on holiday and one was out of the country, that couldn't be arranged earlier because riders weren't available and ironically was rained-off anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 I never mentioned the word "chosen." This month is filled with pointless and frequently rained-off fixtures that were never rearranged for earlier dates because of rider (un)availability. You recently had a fixture where one team had six guests and R/R, partly because two riders were on holiday and one was out of the country, that couldn't be arranged earlier because riders weren't available and ironically was rained-off anyway. I'm still unclear what your "100% support" constitutes. Riders have gone on holiday, presumably because they consider the play-off finals to be the end of the season? Are you going to ban riders from going on holiday until after the documented end date of the season (31st October) even though the league has effectively been completed up to three weeks earlier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 I'm still unclear what your "100% support" constitutes. Riders have gone on holiday, presumably because they consider the play-off finals to be the end of the season? Are you going to ban riders from going on holiday until after the documented end date of the season (31st October) even though the league has effectively been completed up to three weeks earlier? If the club to which they are contracted still has fixtures outstanding . . . . YES! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 The British speedway season runs from March 15th to October 31st. If certain tracks wish to close early and have their end of season booze-ups during the season then that is their choice, but they cannot dictate when others finish their fixtures providing they fall within those dates. Perhaps the greatest indicator of the present weakness of the sport here is that whereas in the past tracks staged as many meetings as possible through that period now the aim seems to be reversed, with it appears a record low being targetted next year if an 11 match home season is introduced in the Premiership. From over 30 to a dozen . That's how far speedway here really has fallen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Belle vue are the last club to run two teams. I'd be surprised if that number increases. In most cases, more meetings means more losses. I'd be surprised if the Colts lost money given the gates they get.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin wood Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 There is a wealth of talent coming through at BV now and the national league is instrumental in this,and long may it continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 After a very late night and a longer than usual lie-in I think I may have woken up in 'cloud-cuckoo' land!!! For far too many years the BSPA Championship clubs (with the help of a Championship promoter as Chairman) have outnumbered and often out voted their Premiership colleagues on a number of important issues!!! One example, when the 'draft reserve' system was introduced to 'weaken' the top league, the then Elite clubs proposed a reduction in admission prices to reflect the 'weaker' product. This was out voted by the then PL clubs who were in some cases only charging £1 less than the Elite clubs but who said they couldn't afford to drop their prices. The '2-Brit' reserves should have been first adopted by the Championship clubs - but yet again NO - it was up to the Premiership teams to 'bite that particular bullet'! Finally, despite all the doom and gloom merchants - how many Premiership/Elite clubs have disappeared by going bust in recent years, as against the number of Championship/PL clubs threatening to do so?! Only a mug believes that. Why did most of them put their prices up the following year then? And theres no rule about how much clubs charge, they can charge what they like. This is one of them bull$hit stories where someone tries to blame someone else when the fans have a go at them for weakening the product and upping the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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