customhouseregular Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Finally got to see this film after all these years. Some great vintage speedway footage from New Cross. Well worth a look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Did they also build a single bend set to film some of the scenes for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Can't answer that one False Dawn. Norbold would know I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) An interesting Link in regard to the film. Many crowd scenes were filmed after a meeting - I never managed "to appear" in any of them - I used to stand at the opposite bend while crowd scenes were shot on the pits bend. Edited June 29, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Might save this one for the long cold winter...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5aSHN_j_4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I like the film scenes involving 'Compo'!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Did they also build a single bend set to film some of the scenes for this? It seems all interior scenes were shot at Pinewood but all the race footage is genuine on-track. Ron Johnson doubling for Dirk Bogarde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Some previous debate on 'Once A Jolly Swagman". http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=72592 http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=52429 Edited September 19, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Did they also build a single bend set to film some of the scenes for this? They sure did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Did they also build a single bend set to film some of the scenes for this? They sure did I'll take your word for it mickthemuppet but I have no recollection of a single bend film set being set-up at New Cross for the filming! ::: Here's another Link in regard to the film at: http://londonspeedways.proboards.com/thread/556/jolly-swagman And in the REAL speedway world it would appear that speedway riders were NOT impressed with the film! http://cliffjones.zenfolio.com/p14758887/hb682b43#hb682b43 Edited September 19, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'll take your word for it mickthemuppet but I have no recollection of a single bend film set being set-up at New Cross for the filming! ::: Here's another Link in regard to the film at: http://lonidonspeedways.proboards.com/thread/556/jolly-swagman And in the REAL speedway world it would appear that speedway riders were NOT impressed with the film! http://cliffjones.zenfolio.com/p14758887/hb682b43#hb682b43 They built it in the studio from the start line to the first bend .It was not well received by the Speedway fraternity and the leading player Dirk Bogarde who played Farr did not like motorbikes I used to think this was the only film with a Speedway theme until I discovered a film call "There is another sun" in 1952 and sometimes called" Wall Of Death" It starred Lawrence Harvey as a fairground boxer and Maxwell Reed as Rocky , a wall of death rider who needed to get a Speedway bike to win the Speedway invitation race at their local track, and win £100. Looking at the film I am certain that this was filmed at West Ham. Maxwell Reed was the first husband of Joan Collins and the film was directed by Lewis Gilbert who went on to direct "The spy who loved me" Oddly enough both film endings finished up the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'll take your word for it mickthemuppet but I have no recollection of a single bend film set being set-up at New Cross for the filming! Things aren't always what they seem..... Pinewood Studios: A speedway track complete with pits was built on backlot as a replica of New Cross Stadium. http://www.thestudiotour.com/movies.php?movie_id=388 Not the reference I was looking for. I'm sure someone, during a previous thread on here, posted a picture of that set which was just one corner of a circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 Once a Jolly Swagman is on Talking Pictures (Sky 328) tomorrow (30 June) at 6:00 p.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 look who produced or directed the film J ACK L EE of Buxton Birmingham and Sheffield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 9/19/2017 at 11:21 PM, mickthemuppet said: They built it in the studio from the start line to the first bend .It was not well received by the Speedway fraternity and the leading player Dirk Bogarde who played Farr did not like motorbikes I used to think this was the only film with a Speedway theme until I discovered a film call "There is another sun" in 1952 and sometimes called" Wall Of Death" It starred Lawrence Harvey as a fairground boxer and Maxwell Reed as Rocky , a wall of death rider who needed to get a Speedway bike to win the Speedway invitation race at their local track, and win £100. Looking at the film I am certain that this was filmed at West Ham. Maxwell Reed was the first husband of Joan Collins and the film was directed by Lewis Gilbert who went on to direct "The spy who loved me" Oddly enough both film endings finished up the same. Wall of Death is here. The speedway looks like New Cross to me, based on how it looks and comparing it to "Once A Jolly Swagman". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 37 minutes ago, Grachan said: Wall of Death is here. The speedway looks like New Cross to me, based on how it looks and comparing it to "Once A Jolly Swagman". The speedway track was Walthamstow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted December 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, mickthemuppet said: The speedway track was Walthamstow Are you sure?. I'm pretty certain it's New Cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 .......since the credits at the end say Walthamstow Stadium have to believe its Walthamstow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 Finally got to see it on youtube, as close as I will ever get to New Cross!! Enjoyed it but not enough speedway-thought Bill Fox was crazy to give up his career for a bird-nice to see Thora Hird as Dirk Bogarde's mum, also Bonar Colleano and Bill Owen-worth watching and the speedway stuff brought back great memories-amazing to see full stadiums 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) Memory lane there, though a decade or two and more before my time. 'Swagman' was easily the best speedway movie of that era and was filmed at New Cross, you can make out the New Cross Rangers race bibs adapted to be 'Cobras' bibs as depicted in the film. It's been shown on Talking Pictures channel Freeview 81 (+ 328, 445 & 306) a few times, the DVD isn't too dear either. 'Britainnia Of Billingsgate' was another speedway move of the time, not sure if it was the film where just a straight and one bend of a track was constructed, think Lea Bridge may have been used also. Again, way (way) before my birth... Edited December 22, 2018 by martinmauger usual spelling blobs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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