archie21 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Cook was hardly going to risk himself in a now meanlingnless meeting with the play offs tonight for Belle Vue [/With this sort of attitude from a "so called number 1 rider " no wonder the fans don't go to Workington, I know that I wound not bother.quote] I don't know what went on with my reply to "Panthers89" post but some how it looks as if the bottom line his part of his post. This is my comment and not part of Panthers89. Sorry for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlislecomet2 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Sounds like another example of why British Speedway is going down the pan - the riders having too much power and too little respect for the paying public who after all are paying their wages. Full marks to Scunthorpe for the work they appeared to put in to get the meeting on - that is how it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulvik Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 One person who does deserve some credit was Mr Griffin the ref who having inspected the track along with the team captains decided that track was raceable made the riders "race", an action that I'm sure will see him been taken off one or two Christmas card lists this morning . As fans we are often quick to knock refs but when they stand up for us it's only right we recognise it and give them credit 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Shoe Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 James Sarjeant over Cookie any day much better attitude. On that performance i couldn't agree more. I think riders at times forget that they are in the entertainment business and i know which one entertained the fans the most last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 One person who does deserve some credit was Mr Griffin the ref who having inspected the track along with the team captains decided that track was raceable made the riders "race", an action that I'm sure will see him been taken off one or two Christmas card lists this morning . As fans we are often quick to knock refs but when they stand up for us it's only right we recognise it and give them credit Avery good point,he wasnt standing no messing last night,an attitude ``some`` could learn alot from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 One person who does deserve some credit was Mr Griffin the ref who having inspected the track along with the team captains decided that track was raceable made the riders "race", an action that I'm sure will see him been taken off one or two Christmas card lists this morning . As fans we are often quick to knock refs but when they stand up for us it's only right we recognise it and give them credit Yes, Phil Griffin deserves the plaudits for last night. He wouldn’t be bullied. Scorpions’ captain Josh Auty deserves credit as well for his part in making sure we saw some racing. Brilliant work by the track staff, management and even one or two fans in helping clear the water. It became clear that the community spirit is alive and strong in Scunthorpe Speedway. Good riddance to 2017 (only two meetings to go)… and roll on 2018! All the best Rob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Kerr doesnt seem happy on twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 With Jenga apparently suffering from a lack of sleep often posting in the early hours & now has an eyesight problem as he cannot see the post started by Lucifer sam further down the page http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=85298 With the sudden & unexpected rainfall pre meeting, then track work to make it look like racing could be done made me think back to early season when a meeting was called off even though the track, again, looked good after remedial work, but was soft & slushy underneath. But, credit to Phil Griffin, the referee who said it was good to go. Cookie, in heat 1, presumably did the same as Sarjeant did the previous night & deliberately rode through the tapes showing no interest in racing, going off 15m & giving up exiting bend 4 of the 1st lap. Credit to Campton, Williamson & Sarj for giving it a go. Even Proctor decided he did not want to ride & did not appear in heat 10. Once the first few races had passed, riders decided to have a go, Cook included for two & a half laps of heat 5 & was that far in front he could ease up for the rest of the race. Note though with one poster saying Cook saving himself for the bigger meeting tonight having no injury problems. Isn't that just what Lambert has been doing, being injured & still carrying the effects of them, proving he cannot race on successive days. Also, having medical certificates to prove this, resting on a £200 pay day individual meeting to ride for probably £1500+ the following day in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Albert has said all I was going to say, il back it up with an utter farce to say the track was getting worse when in fact it was improving with every race. Any rider who was moaning at heat 10 just give them a ban. Tail wagging the dog. You could tell Rob wasn't impressed but stayed diplomatic. Il repeat what's been said loads of times this season that any newbies would never return and that could have lost a few regulars tonight. Well done to the Scunthorpe officials, they did a remarkable job getting it on. Pity the employees run the show these daysIts common nowadays get in 10 Hts and go home,surely the Refs have to get firmer as like you say things weren't any worse.The throttle works both ways.Cook thinks he is a superstar now and picks and choose where and when he wants to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 If the ref got them to race 10 heats, why couldn't he get them to race 15?? Maybe if a meeting is called off at 10, you should get the next meeting half price, maybe then you would see a lot more make it to heat 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 With Jenga apparently suffering from a lack of sleep often posting in the early hours & now has an eyesight problem as he cannot see the post started by Lucifer sam further down the page http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=85298 I did wonder how many threads we needed for the same meeting. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonian Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Really felt for Godfrey, track staff and anyone else who mucked in, they worked their conkers off to get the meeting on. Felt Rob's frustration on the mic, constantly apologising for the weather distruption, but there was nothing he could do about that.. And it just seemed he was masking the frustration he had towards certain riders. I'm really not one for having a go at riders, because at the end of the day they understand track conditions more than us fans, I have little knowledge of bikes or track preparation etc, and I don't for one minute want to see any riders get injured because of conditions.. But what I can make judgement on is what I see, and to me the track looked ok, albeit dicey and wet in the early races. Towards the later stages, it actually produced 1 or 2 half decent races (Williamson and Douglas was it? had a good scrap around heat 5/6) and the track seemed to be only getting smoother as the racing continued. Cookie stormed to a win in the race he actually fancied, but to me it was clear certain Workington riders just didn't fancy it. Ideally as a fan, you want to see better racing than last night, but from what I could see, the track was only getting better and it seemed pretty clear, Workington wanted it off as soon as a result could be declared. Auty rode it superbly, hats off to that man, as did every Scunthorpe rider. I saw Kerr having a dig on twitter but he rode it well too, especially heat 1 which looked very tricky. So this offers the question? Are riders to soft and don't want to race as soon as conditions are less than ideal? I know a few got filled in but surely they've got to expect that racing a DIRT track.. Or, are today bikes just not cut out for tracks like last night anymore? Or, was it simply a case of certain riders just not fancying it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 that attitude smacks of disrespect for fans and the track staff who worked hard to try and get the meeting on to me I seen a snapchat from 10mins from tapes and it was absolutely bouncing, you needed bloody armbands on the first bend , you were lucky it got to 10 , it shouldn't have been ran at all ,if that's what you call enjoyment for your money you're easily pleased. No wonder Cookie and Palm Toft weren't happy , would you really risk injuries for a meeting where both teams were to gain nothing , would you get on a bike with no brakes in them conditions ...mmm I think not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I seen a snapchat from 10mins from tapes and it was absolutely bouncing, you needed bloody armbands on the first bend , you were lucky it got to 10 , it shouldn't have been ran at all ,if that's what you call enjoyment for your money you're easily pleased. No wonder Cookie and Palm Toft weren't happy , would you really risk injuries for a meeting where both teams were to gain nothing , would you get on a bike with no brakes in them conditions ...mmm I think not The track was still hard underneath, once the surface water was cleared. And the times were, in general, quicker than heats 12 to 15 of Scunny v Edinburgh the week before. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I seen a snapchat from 10mins from tapes and it was absolutely bouncing, you needed bloody armbands on the first bend , you were lucky it got to 10 , it shouldn't have been ran at all ,if that's what you call enjoyment for your money you're easily pleased. No wonder Cookie and Palm Toft weren't happy , would you really risk injuries for a meeting where both teams were to gain nothing , would you get on a bike with no brakes in them conditions ...mmm I think not did the snap chat show some really good passes and racing from some of the riders on a perfectly rideable and raceable track? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I seen a snapchat from 10mins from tapes and it was absolutely bouncing, you needed bloody armbands on the first bend , you were lucky it got to 10 , it shouldn't have been ran at all ,if that's what you call enjoyment for your money you're easily pleased. No wonder Cookie and Palm Toft weren't happy , would you really risk injuries for a meeting where both teams were to gain nothing , would you get on a bike with no brakes in them conditions ...mmm I think not I was there ,that track was race able especially after a couple of heats, the attitude of some of the riders was "I've seen GP riders and other top riders get meetings off now it's our chance to have a strop" .The only way I could justify some of the riders actions was the fact that maybe there just not good enough to handle the conditions. Could I or would I want to ride on it, of course not I'm not a speedway rider but these guys decided they want to ride powerful bikes on dirt tracks. If you don't want to do it don't do it. That track wasn't dangerous. Rant over Il just rant a bit more, if last night had been a NL meeting the riders would have got on with it no problem Rob Godfrey said he's going to give it one more go which I presume he meant next season, good luck to him because I felt like packing it in especially away meetings but I suppose it's my own fault travelling with a chance of rain 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 With the sudden & unexpected rainfall pre meeting, then track work to make it look like racing could be done made me think back to early season when a meeting was called off even though the track, again, looked good after remedial work, but was soft & slushy underneath. But, credit to Phil Griffin, the referee who said it was good to go. soft on top and like concrete underneath you mean yes? The base is very hard at Scunny hence the water runs off to the corners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 When did Josh become captain again?,,,people around me kept asking when they looked at the program, i believe last night may of made Robs mind up of who he wants to ride for him next season. with the 2 bends being prone to flooding and the drains not working properly could work be done on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I don't know what went on with my reply to "Panthers89" post but some how it looks as if the bottom line his part of his post. This is my comment and not part of Panthers89. Sorry for this. I do agree, but riders will prioritise meetings end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 If you read between the lines of Rob Godfreys post on the Scunthorpe site it's pretty obvious what went on and the meeting should have carried on. Then again by then most had lost the will to live including Rob by the sound of it though I don't blame him. Lost the will to live mmmm how many times as that been quoted this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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