Bryce Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Hi there, I was going to send this as a pm to TMC, but his message box is full. Therefore I'll post it as a thread topic, and others can comment if they so choose. I just thought I'd let you know I bought a copy of the above book recently from the track shop at Rye House, and I wanted to thank you for a thoroughly engaging read. It certainly brought back a lot of memories.I must compliment you on the even handedness of the book. It hilighted both Kenny's amazing determination and raw talent, whilst not glossing over the darker side of his personality and story.I have to confess to a slight bias in that I was a Cradley regular in the early 80s and therefore one of those who couldn't have been counted as a Carter fan. Having said that, the insight into his background, upbringing and personality provided by this book does make me feel a little more sympathy and understanding for Kenny. That doesn't condone or excuse the things he did at the end of his life, and I acknowledge that the book didn't try to do that.Thanks again for an excellent book, albeit a whole decade after you wrote it! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Hi there, I was going to send this as a pm to TMC, but his message box is full. Therefore I'll post it as a thread topic, and others can comment if they so choose. I just thought I'd let you know I bought a copy of the above book recently from the track shop at Rye House, and I wanted to thank you for a thoroughly engaging read. It certainly brought back a lot of memories. I must compliment you on the even handedness of the book. It hilighted both Kenny's amazing determination and raw talent, whilst not glossing over the darker side of his personality and story. I have to confess to a slight bias in that I was a Cradley regular in the early 80s and therefore one of those who couldn't have been counted as a Carter fan. Having said that, the insight into his background, upbringing and personality provided by this book does make me feel a little more sympathy and understanding for Kenny. That doesn't condone or excuse the things he did at the end of his life, and I acknowledge that the book didn't try to do that. Thanks again for an excellent book, albeit a whole decade after you wrote it! I have a copy of the book and makes for a fascinating read although I was never a fan of his. Visited his grave recently as I was passing by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 I remember him on the Mike at Cradley once saying he didn't understand why Cradley fans boo him. Trouble is he pronounced us as CrAdley. You can imagine how that went down. I'm presuming our fans boo d him for some incident with Penhall. The booing started before the 82 incident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 I remember him on the Mike at Cradley once saying he didn't understand why Cradley fans boo him. Trouble is he pronounced us as CrAdley. You can imagine how that went down. I'm presuming our fans boo d him for some incident with Penhall. The booing started before the 82 incident Everyone outside the Midlands pronounced it that way in those days, even Eric Boothroyd did and he had ridden for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Everyone outside the Midlands pronounced it that way in those days, even Eric Boothroyd did and he had ridden for them. They(we) still do. It's really no different that calling a mic' a Mike... I remember him on the Mike at Cradley once saying he didn't understand why Cradley fans boo him. Trouble is he pronounced us as CrAdley. You can imagine how that went down. I'm presuming our fans boo d him for some incident with Penhall. The booing started before the 82 incident 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmet Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 They(we) still do. . How long have you been following speedway? . . . and still haven't got it ! - ? A slow learner, obviously ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 . How long have you been following speedway? . . . and still haven't got it ! - ? A slow learner, obviously ! 40 odd years. ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted September 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 I remember him on the Mike at Cradley once saying he didn't understand why Cradley fans boo him. Trouble is he pronounced us as CrAdley. You can imagine how that went down. I'm presuming our fans boo d him for some incident with Penhall. The booing started before the 82 incident I remember that. He told the crowd they didn't deserve to see him ride! I think he'd just beaten Bruce in the Golden Helmet match race which is what had upset them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 A great book every speedway fan should read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Everyone outside the Midlands pronounced it that way in those days, even Eric Boothroyd did and he had ridden for them. ...and Ivan Mauger! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 I bought this book upon release and found it most interesting and entertaining I subsequently lent it to a mate, who kept it and moved to Reading ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 I was a Carter fan, when he wore an England race jacket! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) There is no doubt that he was fiercely patriotic and riding for England really mattered to him. I would think the English fans of English teams who'd turn up at big events with the flags of other nations (Coventry with Danish flags, Cradley with USA flags etc) were an annoyance to Kenny. Edited September 18, 2017 by Bryce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 There is no doubt that he was fiercely patriotic and riding for England really mattered to him. I would think the English fans of English teams who'd turn up at big events with the flags of other nations (Coventry with Danish flags, Cradley with USA flags etc) were an annoyance to Kenny. Never understood that. Im British i support Britain. Im also an Ipswich fan. I cheered Carter over the likes of Sanders, Cook and Sigalos. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Agreed. I watched Penhall, Schwartz, King, Gundersen etc etc and admired their talent, but my Cradley hero was always Alan Grahame. His partnership with Phil Collins was unbelievable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Kenny's younger brother, Alan Carter's book, Light in the darkness: The truth about Mal, Kenny and Me, the best book I have read. Highlights some of the sad demons within. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I thought Tragedy was the better read, but would certainly recommend the Alan carter one as well, certainly gives some insight into why Kenny was the way he was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMac Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Thanks for your kind comments about both books we published on the Carter brothers. Blimey, how come the Rye House shop still had a copy for sale? Crazy to think that Amazon are still selling copies for £50-plus. I found the one on Kenny particularly challenging to write, because we all knew the tragic ending. After two re-prints, there is no mileage in printing a third paperback edition but an updated and extended eBook of Tragedy can be bought from Amazon, for downloading to the Kindle e-reader, for just £4.99. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tragedy-Kenny-Carter-Love-Forget-ebook/dp/B0128VURS8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505834052&sr=8-2&keywords=Kenny+Carter+Tragedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Bargain. Highly recommend it to anyone who hadn't read it, especially at that price 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Thanks for your kind comments about both books we published on the Carter brothers. Blimey, how come the Rye House shop still had a copy for sale? Crazy to think that Amazon are still selling copies for £50-plus. I found the one on Kenny particularly challenging to write, because we all knew the tragic ending. After two re-prints, there is no mileage in printing a third paperback edition but an updated and extended eBook of Tragedy can be bought from Amazon, for downloading to the Kindle e-reader, for just £4.99. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tragedy-Kenny-Carter-Love-Forget-ebook/dp/B0128VURS8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505834052&sr=8-2&keywords=Kenny+Carter+Tragedy Thanks for that link, I've just purchased it.. This book is probably the best speedway tome I've read - so good, i've bought it twice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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