steve roberts Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) So your argument is: Cowley was effectively a 'neutral' track Oxford lost twice to Reading on this 'neutral' track Therefore Oxford were better than Reading Not at all although Oxford was always deemed a fair track offering little in the way of home track advantage unlike some tracks. Oxford, for whatever reason, just didn't perform well enough on their home track during 1990 (I recall Wiggy developing a complex about Cowley) to warrant a serious challenge at the championship...as explained in said book quoted...although their away form was exceptional. Reading became champions which was an admirable achievement and Oxford were left 'licking their wounds' over a poor home record which cost them dearly in the final analysis. Edited September 20, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Chalk and cheese frankly. Now, if a team could declare that the next goal scored will count as two then you'd have a point. Very different, I agree. But it is unquestionably still the case that one goal counts as two, so any suggestion that speedway is the only sport where points (or goals) double up is untrue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Very different, I agree. But it is unquestionably still the case that one goal counts as two, so any suggestion that speedway is the only sport where points (or goals) double up is untrue. Nothing counts as two. 2-2, 3-3 doesn't become 5-8. It stays at 5-5. Football is all about scoring goals and it's accepted that it's more difficult away from home so that is used purely as a deciding factor when teams are level after both legs have been played. The rule simply states the team scoring more away goals carries on to the next stage of the knock-out competition. The goals still count as one each, but the higher number away goes through. The rule is only used when teams are level at the end of some cup ties not as an artificial attempt to bring a team closer during a run-of-the-mill qualifying group match. I'd say the comparable rule in speedway is that, for a draw, the away team gets two points and the home team only one. Edited September 23, 2017 by Vincent Blackshadow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Very different, I agree. But it is unquestionably still the case that one goal counts as two, so any suggestion that speedway is the only sport where points (or goals) double up is untrue. That is just not true.And it doesn't improve for the re telling. The result is a draw on aggregate. With all goals counting equally. But the deadlock is broken by the number of away goals scored. The side with the greater number of away goals goes through to the next round. It has more in common with the count back at GPs for semi final places. No goals count as double. Edited September 23, 2017 by Grand Central 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 That is just not true. And it doesn't improve for the re telling. The result is a draw on aggregate. With all goals counting equally. But the deadlock is broken by the number of away goals scored. The side with the greater number of away goals goes through to the next round. It has more in common with the count back at GPs for semi final places. No goals count as double. Fair point GC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Very different, I agree. But it is unquestionably still the case that one goal counts as two, so any suggestion that speedway is the only sport where points (or goals) double up is untrue. You agreed with my rebuttal of your original point then proceeded to restate it! I cannot find any 'unquestionable' case of any football goal scored being worth double at the point it was scored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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