New era Panthers Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: i'm not too sure, but since Smith was dropped from his Champ side, does he not come back into league on his most recent ave (Prem converted) i'm sure that's what happened when BWD went from Workington to Peterborough? Using Jack Smith's premier league average wouldn't alter the fact his average would still be too high 2.00 x 1.3 =2'60 Danny Phillips average is 2.26 and as Scunthorpe are already over 42.50 limit they have no points to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/20/2018 at 11:04 PM, Tosh1218 said: Give Danny a break he’s come back from nearly a year out with serious injuries and the way the team was set up we would always have a strong reserve and Danny as back up . At the season end if Danny achieves his average or ups it slightly he will have done his job. Just because of a home defeat we’re a no 1 guest put a 2nd string score in and the reserve guest didn’t score a point my advice to you is I’ve watched to many speedway meetings to panic in June , silverware is fished out in September/October ”So don’t panic Mr Manering” Okay I have been pretty patient and not panicking but enough is enough, you can show loyalty and show blind loyalty, there is better out there in the national league. I didnt expect anything more that 2 pts from him but how we are at present with guests dropping points all over the place, we have a chance to do something. I dont know what average some of the riders step up into the CL from the NL but there is Flint, Kemp, Brennan etc who are winning races. Phillips isnt winning races even in the NL. No disrespect intended but another season in the NL will do him good, he is not ready for the chamionship yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Both Flint and Kemp are still 15 and not old enough to ride in the Championship Thats aside from the fact they may already be destined elsewhere when they are....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Flint to Berwick & Kemp to Ipswich but that will be in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, IronScorpion said: Flint to Berwick & Kemp to Ipswich but that will be in 2019. Unless Glasgow step in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, IronScorpion said: Flint to Berwick & Kemp to Ipswich but that will be in 2019. Flint would be better steering clear of Berwick IMO,won't learn a lot there.Dont think he would go there anyway IMO . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) I realise his last average was up on where he started and yes its not his fault we are losing, that is for sure mainly due to guests but I just looked at the ALL HOME matches this season 6. Danny Phillips - 1', 0, F/X, 0, 1, 0 = 2+1 6. Danny Phillips 1, 2, 0, 0, 0 = 3 6. Danny Phillips 0, 0, 0, 0 = 0 6. Danny Phillips : 1, (GM - F/X), F/X, 0, X, 0, F = 1 6. Danny Phillips (2.48) - 1,0,XM(GM-2).0,(GM-3) = 1 6. Danny Phillips - 1, 0, 0, 0 = 1 6. Danny Phillips (2.00) - R,0,0,(GM-1) = 0 6. Danny Phillips 1, 0, 0, F, (GM - 2*) = 1 Does he not like the track? Lack of confidence or is it machinary, something is definitely up 36 races 9 pts .... averages 1.00 !! Edited June 23, 2018 by Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Prior to the Peterborough meeting, Danny only had 4 x 3rd places in 24 races. Has he not got the confidence yet or the settings right. Surely someone should try his bikes to see if that is the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Lewis, give us your opinions of riders available that could change matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 I am following both meetings on tonight at Lakeside & Workington & some has posted that the hope Bickley score his 1st point beating an opposing rider. He has scored a point but only after Proctor fell. Sorry! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie21 Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Lewis said: I realise his last average was up on where he started and yes its not his fault we are losing, that is for sure mainly due to guests but I just looked at the ALL HOME matches this season 6. Danny Phillips - 1', 0, F/X, 0, 1, 0 = 2+1 6. Danny Phillips 1, 2, 0, 0, 0 = 3 6. Danny Phillips 0, 0, 0, 0 = 0 6. Danny Phillips : 1, (GM - F/X), F/X, 0, X, 0, F = 1 6. Danny Phillips (2.48) - 1,0,XM(GM-2).0,(GM-3) = 1 6. Danny Phillips - 1, 0, 0, 0 = 1 6. Danny Phillips (2.00) - R,0,0,(GM-1) = 0 6. Danny Phillips 1, 0, 0, F, (GM - 2*) = 1 Does he not like the track? Lack of confidence or is it machinary, something is definitely up 36 races 9 pts .... averages 1.00 !! See my post on page 1 Scorpions v Lakeside 22-6-18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 I will repeat my post that I asked Lewis ....................."give us your opinions of riders available that could change matters." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Danny Phillips come into the side on an average just over 2 pts ,the side around him we're going to be the match winners as the way the team started off. He is going into that heat alongside Gino Manzares on a 5.8 average and usually against the two opposite reserves generally on averages of 4 pts . So generally most speedway races I've seen the higher average finishes first ,so we're don't people get behind Danny Phillips and stop bleating he is trying and he will get better he was out last year 9 months so as a spectator I see him trying and that will do for me ps how many of these keyboard warriors rode a speedway bike. Good Night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Phillips isn’t doing great but if he was swapped and another rider came in, it’s not going to make a huge difference. He might score 3 rather than 2! The problem with the team is the injuries suffered by Worrall & Nielsen with the latter meaning the reserves (with Gino seemingly still suffering) having to take more rides than they should! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 At this point I feel I want to pass comment.....Danny Phillips returned to the sport after a serious injury.on a 2 pt average. It fitted in the team we had. The lad is doing well in his come back. Don't blame him for our loss. Its not his fault. We went tonight to Lakeside with a weak side. Missing Stevie 9pt av. and Stephen 7pt . That's 16 pts short. David Howe as guest 6pt av. Do the maths were missing out on 10pt av. Its injuries which is hurting us badly. The team was good at the start of the season. I am so disappointed you wouldn't believe ! BUT its not D Phillips fault Give the kid a break! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 I know its not Phillips fault and I realise he has lost confidence from when we were flying with mainly a full team but I was just pointing out that something is wrong at home, there must be some improvement from riding the same track 7 times this season were others have not seen it once. I did suggest 3 riders and it looks like 2 of them are 15 years old (Kemp/Flint) and 1 maybe too high an average (brennan). With what I have pointed out, is that there is something wrong, probably same with Bickley, he is either the same or worse in the CL but he does score well in the NL, Phillips doesnt even do that. I am sorry but I dont know the answer to this conumdrum and I wouldnt like to be in Robs shoes to try and sort it. Like I said I do think the issue is with guests not remotely scoring anything like what Worral/Nielsen would, as for Phillips, somebody please help him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Anyone heard anymore on Worral, is he nearing a come back. There is a lot of away fixtures coming up in which we could really do with worral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie21 Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 18 hours ago, Tosh1218 said: Danny Phillips come into the side on an average just over 2 pts ,the side around him we're going to be the match winners as the way the team started off. He is going into that heat alongside Gino Manzares on a 5.8 average and usually against the two opposite reserves generally on averages of 4 pts . So generally most speedway races I've seen the higher average finishes first ,so we're don't people get behind Danny Phillips and stop bleating he is trying and he will get better he was out last year 9 months so as a spectator I see him trying and that will do for me ps how many of these keyboard warriors rode a speedway bike. Good Night Good morning!! 36 races around Scuni. and only 9 points scored. By now I would have expected at least 3 points a meeting, which is not out of the way considering his experience in the National League, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 5 hours ago, eric i said: Anyone heard anymore on Worral, is he nearing a come back. There is a lot of away fixtures coming up in which we could really do with worral. Think Rob said 1 more month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Think we should be looking at making a 28 day deal with someone, to cover either Steve's or Stefans absence. Andreas Lyager would be a decent shout, seems to be flying at the moment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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