racers and royals Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 So Shuttleworth is now missing from the Colts' play-off semi final to be at number 8 and probably not needed for the Aces? I assume any National League rider can now miss a meeting in that league to be included as a number 8 in a higher division A national league rider can miss any meeting for any reason - obviously apart from Jake Knight !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 It's Wolverhamton's to lose. No doubt about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Wolves don't have a great record at the NSS so it depends how you look at it. Aces are more than capable of pulling back 13 points. Bewley may have to take an RR however he is more than capable of getting double figures. A huge difference having a big scoring reserve and that's where the Aces will win AFAIC. Bewley is capable of scoring double figures but from memory he's only done it once this season and that was in his last meeting, so certainly not a given. The difference between Fricke and Thorssell is that at the NSS Fricke is good for at least 11 or 12 on current form and r/r usually produced 7or8 whilst he was injured whereas Thorssell is good for 8 and r/r will probably match that. So a swing of about 8 points to Wolves plus the 13 point lead means an almost impossible task. Of course that's on paper and my heart says we can still do it but my head knows it's going to take an exceptional performance from everybody to do it. Hopefully, with the weather now brightening up and the good forecast, lots of Wolves fans will be making the journey and we can witness a tremendous meeting with lots of atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Riss is pretty decent rider though and I expect him to beat Smith at least a couple of times, it's a speedway meeting anything could happen, you only have to look at the Swindon meeting Monday, who would have thought Ellis score would be so low. Play offs are a different animal and maybe some teams are better at raising their game so of course that has a relevance too. Ellis could have easily scored more if he wasn't trying so hard. Of course you have to ride the conditions as well as the occasion. Both Swindon and Aces riders overrode throwing away silly points. Bewley is capable of scoring double figures but from memory he's only done it once this season and that was in his last meeting, so certainly not a given. The difference between Fricke and Thorssell is that at the NSS Fricke is good for at least 11 or 12 on current form and r/r usually produced 7or8 whilst he was injured whereas Thorssell is good for 8 and r/r will probably match that. So a swing of about 8 points to Wolves plus the 13 point lead means an almost impossible task. Of course that's on paper and my heart says we can still do it but my head knows it's going to take an exceptional performance from everybody to do it. Hopefully, with the weather now brightening up and the good forecast, lots of Wolves fans will be making the journey and we can witness a tremendous meeting with lots of atmosphere. Think it's definitely opened up the tie I will certainly agree with that. Hopefully the weather will be okay and the tie and racing will be every bit as good as it promises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 I love how people are quite adamant that one team or the other is favourite. Theres very little in it, I'd probably back Wolves right now but BV's top 4 can all go unbeaten - TBH Bewley has gone close a couple of times too (including vs Wolves). Honestly think this could go either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Didn't Dan Bewley beat Freddie last time we were there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Didn't Dan Bewley beat Freddie last time we were there? Can't see that happening tonight, Lindgren should go through the meeting unbeaten unless Cook or Bjerre get their act together, even then i don't expect them to beat him more than once each. It will certainly be a shock if Freddie doesn't get 15 from 6 rides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 So Shuttleworth is now missing from the Colts' play-off semi final to be at number 8 and probably not needed for the Aces? I assume any National League rider can now miss a meeting in that league to be included as a number 8 in a higher division An NL rider can miss a meeting if he fancies an evening in front of the telly, a session at the pub, has ballet lessons or is washing his hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABS Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Bet 365 has gone BV-10 at 5/6, so in their eyes Wolves are slight favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Bet 365 has gone BV-10 at 5/6, so in their eyes Wolves are slight favourites. That's correct and I backed Wolves at 100/30 to win the Final. I think this is really 50/50 or maybe 60/40 in favour of Belle Vue so I've backed BV at 5/1 to win the Final. I do fancy whoever wins this will beat Swindon. I would prefer BV as they have a full team next week. You can now get 11/2 for BV with Skybet if you think they'll win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 A no 8 ? That's unheard of these days. Well done the Aces. So Shuttleworth is now missing from the Colts' play-off semi final to be at number 8 and probably not needed for the Aces? Now that Smith is ok to race, Shuttleworth now moved to no 8. A no 8 can only be used for r/r rides so seems strange unless Smith is not fully fit & Bewley takes Smith's rides making sure Belle Vue have 2 riders for each heat. Still not fair on the Colts though. It would be interesting to know where Shuttleworth prefers to be tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Anyone know what time the turnstiles are open til on the south terrace, going to be a bit late I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Anyone know what time the turnstiles are open til on the south terrace, going to be a bit late I think Have u already got your ticket. There is a ticket office over there but unsure when they close that. Probably at start time so you may have to go to front of stadium to get ticket first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Would rather meet BV in the final so hope they win tonight and win the sf. Sod off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Have u already got your ticket. There is a ticket office over there but unsure when they close that. Probably at start time so you may have to go to front of stadium to get ticket firstAlready got tickets phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Ht 1 : Wolves 5-1. Ht 2 : Aces 5-1. After that, Gawd knows. Hope the Ref whomever she/he may be doesn't shaft either side. Roll on 7.30. COYW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Already got tickets phil Thats good, the turnstiles are automatic so you can just walk up to them anytime and scan your barcode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thats good, the turnstiles are automatic so you can just walk up to them anytime and scan your barcode. Great thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Great thanks for your help Oh we're good like that in Gorton, in fact if you want valet parking I can meet you by the carpark entrance, I'll be wearing a black hoodie and trainers, just hand me the keys and I'll take care of the rest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Can't see that happening tonight, Lindgren should go through the meeting unbeaten unless Cook or Bjerre get their act together, even then i don't expect them to beat him more than once each. It will certainly be a shock if Freddie doesn't get 15 from 6 rides. And all over for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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