Phil The Ace Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Belle vue are favs massive to win ..but they do tend to choke . The one thing for sure If they do lose the BV fans will blame everyone but themselves and the self pity will be massive as normal . Id love to get through and whoop your arses. But if wolves win then so be it. It will have to be them to whoop your arses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Id love to get through and whoop your arses. But if wolves win then so be it. It will have to be them to whoop your arses. Who are you going to blame if you lose ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Id love to get through and whoop your arses. But if wolves win then so be it. It will have to be them to whoop your arses. You have been spouting for months about how overrated we are and how everyone will beat us in the play offs. Yet we hammered Poole after losing around 15 points in stupid falls and i fancy us to do you boys easy. Doyley and BWD back means we will prob win both legs if its you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 For someone trying to claim pedantry you're doing a poor job. This is simple, are Poole in the play-offs? No. The rule says, "No Rider, whose Team is in the Play-Offs may appear as a Guest in the Play-Offs." not, "No Rider, whose Team was in the Play-Offs may appear as a Guest in the Play-Offs". It another example of the crap rulebook, but reading it as written, the rulebook says that Hans can guest for Poole. This meeting is a play-off semi final, to which Poole were also ‘in’. Unfortunately the weather intervened. Agree the rule is poorly written but you know what it is supposed to mean. Isn’t that all that matters? Or would you prefer to see a rider ko’d in one semi final and guest in the other? Request to BSPA to change the word ‘in’ to ‘qualify’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Looks like Jack Smith could be riding tomorrow after a succesfull practise at Sheffield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Looks like Jack Smith could be riding tomorrow after a succesfull practise at Sheffield. Advantage Belle Vue.Should be able to beat Greaves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 This meeting is a play-off semi final, to which Poole were also in. Unfortunately the weather intervened. Agree the rule is poorly written but you know what it is supposed to mean. Isnt that all that matters? Or would you prefer to see a rider kod in one semi final and guest in the other? Request to BSPA to change the word in to qualify.As you say Poole WERE in the play offs. At the time of this fixture they are not in. How are we supppsed to know what they mean? If they wanted it to mean any team who had qualified for the play offs that was easy enough to specify - but they didn't. So it is just guesswork to say what the intention was. It could be argued the intention was simply to stop a rider from influencing who his side would meet in the final? In which case SCBs interpretation, based on meaning in everyday use, is consistent with the intent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Unfortunately I don't think Belle Vue will come back from the first leg regardless of Thorsells injury, which I believe means Swindon will win by a country mile in the final, regardless of who they are against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 As you say Poole WERE in the play offs. At the time of this fixture they are not in. How are we supppsed to know what they mean? If they wanted it to mean any team who had qualified for the play offs that was easy enough to specify - but they didn't. So it is just guesswork to say what the intention was. It could be argued the intention was simply to stop a rider from influencing who his side would meet in the final? In which case SCBs interpretation, based on meaning in everyday use, is consistent with the intent. Whatever the assumptions and interpretations. Surely the rule should not change because it rained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Whatever the assumptions and interpretations. Surely the rule should not change because it rained.The rule hasn't changed though?What's changed is some of the riders who are eligible to guest. Which is the case with most rained off meetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 If it's off tonight will BT be invited to film the coin toss for the place in the final? ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) If it's off tonight will BT be invited to film the coin toss for the place in the final? ;-)And in keeping with British Speedway the coin will be a 'double header'... I'll get me coat...😁 Edited September 29, 2017 by mikebv 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 As you say Poole WERE in the play offs. At the time of this fixture they are not in. How are we supppsed to know what they mean? If they wanted it to mean any team who had qualified for the play offs that was easy enough to specify - but they didn't. So it is just guesswork to say what the intention was. It could be argued the intention was simply to stop a rider from influencing who his side would meet in the final? In which case SCBs interpretation, based on meaning in everyday use, is consistent with the intent. I reckon the rule was written exactly as they wanted it to be. Like you say, it wouldn't be hard to specify exactly what was required, but as with many rules, it is written to be interpretated in many ways, as the BSPA / MC decide to apply it.... It depends whose asking !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Unfortunately I don't think Belle Vue will come back from the first leg regardless of Thorsells injury, which I believe means Swindon will win by a country mile in the final, regardless of who they are against.Swindon will have to ride a lot better than they did monday to win. Personally i still think Wolves will win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Rain will have cleared by 11.00, will be a nice sunny afternoon into the evening. If travelling up give yourself extra time as the M6 is a nightmare on a Friday. Id personally come off at J15 Stoke and come up the A34. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Swindon will have to ride a lot better than they did monday to win. Personally i still think Wolves will win. It depends on who wants it the most and able raise their game. Will it be Wolves or BV joining Swindon in the final? It's a hard one to call - 13 points should be doable to overturn and, if the weather is kind, it should be a belter. I would still like to see BV in the final but wouldnt be too sad to see Wolves go through. Edited September 29, 2017 by Steve0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Looking at the Manchester weather forecast for today- shows lovely day/evening. Edited September 29, 2017 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 As Beowulf said. ...... stats say different. We haven't beaten you over 2 legs yet this season. You know the Aces are favourites. Nonsense you have 13 points to play with, wolves should do it without doubt. Past results mean nothing as they weren't 2 legs. Fricke out weakens us more than JT out weakens you. Wolves to lose we all know that. Swindon will have to ride a lot better than they did monday to win. Personally i still think Wolves will win. JT is a big loss over 2 legs, especially at monmore. If a full strength Swindon should beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Nonsense you have 13 points to play with, wolves should do it without doubt. Past results mean nothing as they weren't 2 legs. Fricke out weakens us more than JT out weakens you. Wolves to lose we all know that. JT is a big loss over 2 legs, especially at monmore. If a full strength Swindon should beat them. No TR rides, remember. As for Thorssell isn't he the rider that just failed to beat Fricke to 3rd in the Premier riders final ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Nonsense you have 13 points to play with, wolves should do it without doubt. Past results mean nothing as they weren't 2 legs. Fricke out weakens us more than JT out weakens you. Wolves to lose we all know that. Complete nonsense. Jacob is even more vital to us at the NSS whereas others ride the NSS well to replace Max. Past results were home and away so of course they mean something. Both times you have won on aggregate in the A and B fixtures. I'd love wolves to hang on to the 13 point lead but the Aces remain favourites to win on aggregate again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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