racers and royals Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 For what its worth, back in 2001/02 when Tony Rickardsson rode for Poole, he was on a basic of £180 per point. And then there were the add-ons..........!! Incidentally how many clubs have actually closed down in the recent past through losing money? rather than any other reasons eg track availability etc? Reading would have needed a new Promoter even if the stadium didn`t close- as Legg was out !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 No way can a plumber earn £1000. But let's assume you're right. This young rider does speedway because he loves it, that's nice. I watch speedway becuase I love it, I spend hours a week updating speedway-stats.co.uk because I enjoy it, I spend my weekends taking apart and rebuilding cars because I love it. Do you know what those 3 hobbies earn me? Nothing. In fact between the three of them they cost me a damn fortune. Be it he petrol and entrance fee for speedway, or the Sky and BT sport subscription. Then there's the £12 a month I pay for hosting speedway-stats (not a lot really but it's still a cost) or the frankly £1000s a year I spend on cars. If these riders love it, why the need to milk the sport for every penny? While speedway riders think they're capable of earning 52k a year in another job they're going to moan they're underpaid. News flash, the average person in the U.K earns 26k. ..the dreaded average again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 NO doubt Wayne Rooney loves his job but he still wants £300,000 a week to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 NO doubt Wayne Rooney loves his job but he still wants £300,000 a week to do it. Wayne is in a job that can afford his wages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted September 10, 2017 Report Share Posted September 10, 2017 Why are speedway fans so obsessed with what a rider earns ? I don't care what a plumber, footballer, doctor, actor or anyone who posts on here earns. If you enjoy the sport, watch it. If you feel you're not getting your moneys worth, don't go. It's down to the promotors to make it work, that's their business. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 SCB I'm not a plumber but I know plenty, most take more than £1K home. Admittedly the market is getting flooded with them ( no pun intended ) nowadays. But experienced plumbers in Oxfordshire are on bloody good money Sparkies and plumbers I flatted with in London were earning close to or more than a grand a week, and that's nearly 15 years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Sparkies and plumbers I flatted with in London were earning close to or more than a grand a week, and that's nearly 15 years ago! ...far better learning a trade than going to University picking up a degree on the bleeding obvious...or the dreaded media studies. I work with many who have degrees but barely earning more than the minimum wage...never mind living wage but as Steve Shovlar states on another thread they could always clean toilets (something I've done incidentally) as apparently there are plenty of those jobs available! Edited September 11, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) ...far better learning a trade than going to University picking up a degree on the bleeding obvious...or the dreaded media studies. I work with many who have degrees but barely earning more than the minimum wage...never mind living wage but as Steve Shovlar states on another thread they could always clean toilets (something I've done incidentally) as apparently there are plenty of those jobs available! Just read a recent poll taken (2,000 students) that apparently one in four people regret having gone to University landing them with huge debts. Others said that University was a waste of time and had wished that they had chosen their degree more carefully. Two-thirds said their degrees were pointless and had not helped them land a job after graduating. One in three said prospective employers did not even ask about their degree in interviews. Fashion, drama and media studies were voted most pointless degrees. Just under 50 per cent of those who were working said they could have got the job without a university education by starting as a trainee or apprentice. Edited September 11, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just read a recent poll taken (2,000 students) that apparently one in four people regret having gone to University landing them with huge debts. Others said that University was a waste of time and had wished that they had chosen their degree more carefully. Two-thirds said their degrees were pointless and had not helped them land a job after graduating. One in three said prospective employers did not even ask about their degree in interviews. Fashion, drama and media studies were voted most pointless degrees. Just under 50 per cent of those who were working said they could have got the job without a university education by starting as a trainee or apprentice. Exactly right! My local university is famed for 'peace studies' FFS. I was an apprentice engineer and there was plenty of work in those days, these days we are too reliant on service industries to take up the unemployed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 It would be interesting to see the survey results of 30-40 year-old non-graduates, asking how many regret not going to university. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 It would be interesting to see the survey results of 30-40 year-old non-graduates, asking how many regret not going to university. I'm one who didn't, no regrets at all. There was & is graduates at my workplace of similar age & older earning less than me. There's such a high turnover of graduates every year the percentage ending up unemployed & taking low paid jobs will increase. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 It would be interesting to see the survey results of 30-40 year-old non-graduates, asking how many regret not going to university. ...I'm in my fifties and don't regret for one minute not going to University. Having worked in a University Department for 17 years I saw the process first hand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) My step son went to university graduated the lot then got a job at JCB doing something completely different. Only university you need is the university of life Edited September 11, 2017 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 ...I'm in my fifties and don't regret for one minute not going to University. Having worked in a University Department for 17 years I saw the process first hand. So you don't think studying the right degree would have opened up more opportunities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) ...I'm in my fifties and don't regret for one minute not going to University. Having worked in a University Department for 17 years I saw the process first hand. I am in my Seventies. I never attended Universiity and have never, ever regretted the fact. My Son, however, did attend University and genuinely wishes he hadn't. He feels that he would have done better to get a job straight from School. I must say that I probably agree with him. Edited September 11, 2017 by The White Knight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) So you don't think studying the right degree would have opened up more opportunities? Who knows...left school at seventeen and straight into work and I am more than happy with what I have achieved during my working life and a variety of interesting jobs and meeting many interesting people. The thought of going to University never crossed my mind. Edited September 11, 2017 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 ...far better learning a trade than going to University picking up a degree on the bleeding obvious...or the dreaded media studies. I work with many who have degrees but barely earning more than the minimum wage...never mind living wage but as Steve Shovlar states on another thread they could always clean toilets (something I've done incidentally) as apparently there are plenty of those jobs available!Really depends what u study. I initially did a BA in English literature and philosophy, which somewhat surprisingly didn't lead to well paid jobs, so when I was last in London I was earning a couple of quid above minimum wage while my tradie flat mates were earning 4 times what I was each week.But since then I got a more useful degree and then a professional qualification and now earn well over 10 times what I was back then- and for sure I wouldn't be without the qualifications (that my previous employer paid for). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 And no doubt your employer can afford you That's the whole point - promoters should only be paying what they can afford - if it doesn't suit the riders with their bespoke vans, etc - tough titty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Really depends what u study. I initially did a BA in English literature and philosophy, which somewhat surprisingly didn't lead to well paid jobs, so when I was last in London I was earning a couple of quid above minimum wage while my tradie flat mates were earning 4 times what I was each week. But since then I got a more useful degree and then a professional qualification and now earn well over 10 times what I was back then- and for sure I wouldn't be without the qualifications (that my previous employer paid for). ...thereby lies the dilemma. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Didn't seem like Kelvin Tatum was against ditching the double points rule after his comments tonight. " adds spice to the meeting" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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