cowboy cookie returns? Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 In 2017 season Polish EkstraLiga attracted on terraces 633 086 fans in 65 meeting. On average, one meeting was attended by 9 739 fans. When it comes to every speedway league meeting that has taken place in 2017 in Poland then the figure is over one million spectators, or 1 050 530 to be precise, (in 180 meetings) .That makes on average 5 836 spectators at every single League meeting in Polish speedway. It would be very interesting to know the figures for British speedway. I guess the average at Ipswich would be around 1300 source: sportowefakty.pl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) In 2017 season Polish EkstraLiga attracted on terraces 633 086 fans in 65 meeting. On average, one meeting was attended by 9 739 fans. Extraliga attendances: 1992 13847 2010 8536 2015 8717 2016 8379 I'd guess that most of this year's increase is down to Wroclaw returning home, so crowds have been fairly steady for the last decade. Edited November 6, 2017 by arnieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Many thanks for that! Except that it didn't answer your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 In 2017 season Polish EkstraLiga attracted on terraces 633 086 fans in 65 meeting. On average, one meeting was attended by 9 739 fans. When it comes to every speedway league meeting that has taken place in 2017 in Poland then the figure is over one million spectators, or 1 050 530 to be precise, (in 180 meetings) .That makes on average 5 836 spectators at every single League meeting in Polish speedway. It would be very interesting to know the figures for British speedway. I guess the average at Ipswich would be around 1300 source: sportowefakty.pl 550/650 my guess on average accross the 3 leagues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Except that it didn't answer your question. ...forgot what my question was now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Peter Oakes is always worth listening to, one of those people who knows the sport inside and out and has the ability to explain what he sees. Such a shame the authorities didn't back his U15 work more a decade and more ago. 100% correct Vince, as you rightly mention all those years ago when a solid footing for the youth should have been made. One problem today is the bigger picture with The Speedway Star, the new generation of Youth have minimalist coverage. The Development League coverage is a few paragraphs and normally not accurate. Surely to entice the new young generation, a large coverage of the juniors exploits would entice them, family and friends to buy the Star? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Am I right in thinking that Peter Oakes was a Promoter in the past I also seem to remember that he was also Ivans personal manager, but my be wrong on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Am I right in thinking that Peter Oakes was a Promoter in the past I also seem to remember that he was also Ivans personal manager, but my be wrong on that Didnt he promote at Peterborough and Skegness amongst others, although not sure if he was the primary promoter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) Am I right in thinking that Peter Oakes was a Promoter in the past I also seem to remember that he was also Ivans personal manager, but my be wrong on that Am I right in thinking that Peter Oakes was a Promoter in the past I also seem to remember that he was also Ivans personal manager, but my be wrong on that RIGHT on both counts. Promoter at Exeter and ciopromoter at Peterborough for a while. Also has a very distinguished journalistic career and one-time Sports Editor of the Daily Star. Edited November 7, 2017 by PHILIPRISING 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 RIGHT on both counts. Promoter at Exeter and ciopromoter at Peterborough for a while. Also has a very distinguished journalistic career and one-time Sports Editor of the Daily Star. ...as well as co-promoter at Barrow together with Ivan Mauger (1972?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Seem to remember Chris Harris refusing to attend the last Coventry one because he'd got to pay for his partner. Correct. He refused while Kasprzak and Woryna came from Poland to attend. I was disappointed with his decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Correct. He refused while Kasprzak and Woryna came from Poland to attend. I was disappointed with his decision. I fail to see what legitimate criticism one could offer towards an invited guest expecting the courtesy of a 'plus one' . It is the norm in all walks of life and event/function I have attended. To not do so is just bad manners.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I fail to see what legitimate criticism one could offer towards an invited guest expecting the courtesy of a 'plus one' . It is the norm in all walks of life and event/function I have attended. To not do so is just bad manners.. Not to mention penny pinching in the extreme. Especially if you expect the rider to be a part of the reason fan's are going. No doubt one of the reasons why some clubs have folded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) Some kind words for Peter Oakes but lets not lose sight of the fact that the sport's decline happened on his (and obviously various others') watch. Evidently he doesn't (didn't) have all the answers. Edited November 8, 2017 by Stoke Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebv Posted November 7, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Fair point Stoke Potter... When the Speedway Star has been full of letters for years now pointing out the obvious decline of the Sport, as well as the obvious flaws in every 'fix'.. And when the internet forums have done the same ad infinitum for the past ten years or so... So many within the 'inner circle' decided not to pay heed to the issues staring them directly in the face and the clear feedback received from their customers... Even now some feel everything is 'rosy in the garden' I am sure.. Where we are today didn't suddenly happen, it has been well voiced and predicted by thousands of disillusioned and disappointed fans who have (as a minority) hung on through a sense of loyalty or (as a majority) simply walked away.. More of the same nonsense each week, at admission costs far exceeding the value of what's on offer, can only erode the ever dwindling fan base more I would think.. Let's hope someone listens and acts accordingly.. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Fair point Stoke Potter... When the Speedway Star has been full of letters for years now pointing out the obvious decline of the Sport, as well as the obvious flaws in every 'fix'.. And when the internet forums have done the same ad infinitum for the past ten years or so... So many within the 'inner circle' decided not to pay heed to the issues staring them directly in the face and the clear feedback received from their customers... Even now some feel everything is 'rosy in the garden' I am sure.. Where we are today didn't suddenly happen, it has been well voiced and predicted by thousands of disillusioned and disappointed fans who have (as a minority) hung on through a sense of loyalty or (as a majority) simply walked away.. More of the same nonsense each week, at admission costs far exceeding the value of what's on offer, can only erode the ever dwindling fan base more I would think.. Let's hope someone listens and acts accordingly.. Totally agree! Those at the top with delusions of grandeur, need to take off the rose tinted glasses and see things for what they are. One league, no double-ups, anyone who doesn't like it or reckons they can't afford to carry on, can go elsewhere, the sport is more important than they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Not to mention penny pinching in the extreme. Especially if you expect the rider to be a part of the reason fan's are going. No doubt one of the reasons why some clubs have folded. More evidence of just how poor some of theses promotional teams are.. Having said that it won't be a surprise to many bees fans that it happened , given the quality of the guy running the show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 More evidence of just how poor some of theses promotional teams are.. Having said that it won't be a surprise to many bees fans that it happened , given the quality of the guy running the show. and the quality and actions of the guy who allowed him to promote Coventry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) and the quality and actions of the guy who allowed him to promote Coventry. There is only one person responsible for the actions of Mick Horton. You , as someone who claims to be a "mature person" would understand that I would imagine. Anything else you might be alluding to would have no bearing on my previous post. Edited November 7, 2017 by Dave Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 There is only one person responsible for the actions of Mick Horton. You , as someone who claims to be a "mature person" would understand that I would imagine. Anything else you might be alluding to would have no bearing on my previous post. You are alluding to the quality of promotional teams. Well do you blame Horton or Sandhu for closing Coventry ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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