greyhoundp Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 DON'T think Cradley's previous use of Birmingham worked out very well. Cradley have never been promoters at Birmingham in recent years, however one of our management team has. I think it could be worthwhile Cradley taking on running from Perry Barr in the short term, however whats the situation with regard buying Birmingham ?, why would the Cradley promotion need to buy out Birmingham when they only really want to run Cradley. Im sure some sort of agreement could be reached as it seems a little bit silly to lose two teams when they both have enough support to run at least NL racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 I really don't think we could run at Perry Barr without the Brummies being main residents and call ourself Cradley. Just wouldn't sit right for some reason and I don't think enough of us would keep going there. Funnily enough though I think it would work at Monmore without the Wolves. Monmore seems more like home for some reason. Never thought I'd say that years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 A laptop during a race? yes they stuff them up their suits , they look like the airbags so non-one suspects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 DON'T think tracks in danger of closing is because of race nights. No offers for Birmingham so far and Workington's problems have been well documented. Perhaps not just because of race nights but with the dire financial situation and falling attendances last year it could be the last straw that breaks the camels back for one or two or more likely prevent others coming up to the Premiership, so again we will be stuck with, at best a bare minimum of teams in the top,league and great gaps between meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Ive liked your post Speedibee but sitting here wondering if your being a tad sarcastic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 That's ok then I was a bit worried I liked a post that wasn't genuine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 me sarcastic ...Never . Don't think Mr Rising is going to be happy though , single race night means the return of his favourite German BERT Harkins' wife Edith riding a speedway bike. Surely not... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Where does this illusion come from that GP riders will put something like 1,000 on the gate. It didn't happen with Holder at KL or Cook (soon to be GP) at Workington and going back people like Jonnson at Lakeside or even Pedersen N at Eastbourne couldn't do it. All the greedy GP riders want is a convenient night to earn some extra cash whilst testing their bikes (their best equipment will still be based in Poland where they receive 4 to 10 times the money). The crowds in the 70s and 80s were because teams had riders that related only to their team and a continuity of race night (Hackneys mantra was "make it a date, Friday at 8"). 1) Each team can choose its own race night 2) Teams ride regularly, preferably every week. As mentioned above I have yet to see evidence that GP riders justify their wages by increased gates so commit to UK or use the door marked EXIT. 3) No double up riders. if riders are not good enough to be invited to Sweden or Poland and they cannot entice enough fans to watch their team, then its time for riders get a job during the winter. I remember top Championship riders fixing their bikes to the back of a car no great big vans in those days. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) I did as well- it was Amsterdam remember getting soaked leaving the stadium- Saturday night ?I remember it well. Getting the tram to the stadium, Worrying about a rain off and being shocked at how cheap it was to get in! Edited September 20, 2017 by cityrebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 FIXED RACE NIGHTS Surely if it's fixed race nights next season it should be: Premier league Wednesdays & Fridays. Why Mondays - that would mean Poland Sunday, U.K. Monday, Sweden Tuesday for the top names that you hope will be keen to ride in the UK in 2018, some weeks you can add a GP on the Saturday to that rota! Championship league Thursdays & Saturdays. That will mean all the double uppers we all will not have to be in 2 places on the same night. Conference league. Sundays & some Mondays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 I remember it well. Getting the tram to the stadium, Worrying about a rain off and being shocked at how cheap it was to get in! It wasn`t cheap to get in some of the places we went to that weekend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owenbros Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 FIXED RACE NIGHTS Surely if it's fixed race nights next season it should be: Premier league Wednesdays & Fridays. Why Mondays - that would mean Poland Sunday, U.K. Monday, Sweden Tuesday for the top names that you hope will be keen to ride in the UK in 2018, some weeks you can add a GP on the Saturday to that rota! Championship league Thursdays & Saturdays. That will mean all the double uppers we all will not have to be in 2 places on the same night. Conference league. Sundays & some Mondays. Friday nights on GP weekends means the GP riders will be missing because of practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Friday nights on GP weekends means the GP riders will be missing because of practice. But hopefully there won't be any anyway so it won't be a problem. I've got a better idea each track keep their current selected race night if they wish but get someone in who understands how to arrange the fixtures to avoid clashes between the Premiership and Championship. Rain-offs apart this shouldn't be that difficult ~ I bet SCB could do it. If riders want to be in Poland or SEC meetings etc., then don't bother employing them to ride in the UK. I'd be quite happy with a 'lower standard' as long as some thought is given to how the races are sorted out so that riders of a roughly equal standard meet each other. Edited September 20, 2017 by Gemini 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 But hopefully there won't be any anyway so it won't be a problem. I've got a better idea each track keep their current selected race night if they wish but get someone in who understands how to arrange the fixtures to avoid clashes between the Premiership and Championship. Yes Please a Christmas Wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 The Thursday and Saturday split night, set night sounds great until Sheffield, Redcar and Ipswich are the only sides who get council planning permission to run on Thursday – the rest don’t, and if they are lucky enough to get planning permission - have to run on Saturday and you then have 5 or 6 teams racing on a Saturday, losing 5 Saturday nights before the season even starts, drawing a Saturday night side in the Cup at least once, giving up a Saturday for the GP and then factoring in the weather and before you know it they have went months of the season without a home fixture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Most teams that run from a greyhound Stadium will have difficulty running on Friday or Saturday, these two nights are usually the nights the restaurants are full at Greyhound meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 It wasn`t cheap to get in some of the places we went to that weekend I bet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Whilst accepting that most on here are rightly giving their opinion from a fans point of view, what about the sponsor's view? There are several - perhaps many more - that want to see the top (SGP) riders back because it adds value to their commercial brand. More importantly they would be prepared to fund them if fixed nights are agreed especially if TV are still involved. TV would also be keener to see some of the bigger names racing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawks 1975 Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 PHILIPRISING, on 15 Sept 2017 - 8:12 PM, said: SPOKE to someone today who had a conversation with a prominent promoter. He said that he was disappointed at what I wrote in SS and wondered why I was always putting British speedway down. It is in fine shape he said. What planet are some of these guys on? I suspect this might have been a NL promoter of long standing who looks after his own business pretty well. He may also have had his head in the sand....I must admit I do believe the MAJOR issues with the sport are higher up the chain, which understandably affects more people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Whilst accepting that most on here are rightly giving their opinion from a fans point of view, what about the sponsor's view? There are several - perhaps many more - that want to see the top (SGP) riders back because it adds value to their commercial brand. More importantly they would be prepared to fund them if fixed nights are agreed especially if TV are still involved. TV would also be keener to see some of the bigger names racing here. I'm not sure that I go along with that, if I wanted to add value to my commercial brand, I would think that I'd invest in something more in the public eye, 99% of people will never hear of Freddie Lindgren etc, no matter who sponsors them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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